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Governor to Boston cigar bars: You're going down
By adamg on Thu, 07/14/2011 - 1:00pm
NorthEndWaterfront.com reports that for the second time, Gov. Patrick has vetoed a bill to override a city public-health ordinance that will force cigar and hookah bars to shut down by 2018.
The proposed law was co-sponsored by state Rep. Aaron Michlewitz, D-North End, whose district includes the Stanza dei Sigari cigar bar on Hanover Street.
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The last line in the linked
The last line in the linked article is wrong. It is not the only bar where you can legally smoke and drink at the same time. Also Cigar Masters on Boylston Street in the Back Bay.
Read it again. The sentence
Read it again. The sentence starts with "in the northend...".
Actually
it says i.n the North End, this is the only legal cigar bar. Key words: in the North End.
my bad...jesus
my bad...jesus
Booo
This ordinance is crap. I'm pretty sure everyone in a cigar bar knows they'll be ingesting smoke, and is pretty ok with it...
Need to get a binding initiative on the next ballot to override this garbage.
I think it's more about the
I think it's more about the employees and less about the customers.
Exactly, because everyone has
Exactly, because everyone has a right to not work at a cigar bar. Wait a minute, people already have that right.....
If youre unemployed, send out
If youre unemployed, send out 90 applications, and the only one hiring is the one that will kill you....youll take the job anyway. Better dead later than have no food or home now.
What the hell is this argument
What if the only place that's hiring is the Teddy Peanut Butter factory, but you're severely allergic to peanuts? Better dead later than have no food or home now! Obviously, Teddy should be shut down by the Governor to protect those idiot unemployed people with poor survival skills.
How about the military? They're always hiring! Better dead later than have no food or home now! But that job may be dangerous to one's health, so we should probably shut down the military to those incredibly stupid unemployed people from joining and getting hurt.
Shit.
What if there are no "employees", only owners?
I don't imagine it takes too many people to sell cigars and mix drinks. A family of two or three could probably handle it- need they be saved from their livelihood?
Of course, when the cigar bars close, that'll sure take care of the "employee" problem. "We had to eliminate your job to save your health. No need to thank us."
what if it it's your spouse
what if it it's your spouse who owns the cigar bar? There's plenty of spouses who are unhappy their significant other smokes. Or kids who are unhappy their parents smoke. Would they feel pressured to work there since it is the family biz?
But it's still legal for dad, or mom,
to smoke at home, around spouse, kids, or mother-in-law, isn't it? Maybe it shouldn't be.
All I'm saying is, if everyone involved is an adult (customers, owners, even employees) and smoking is legal, then having a handful of private clubs or businesses where smoking is permitted does not seem to violate anybody's rights. Like anything a little risky or unhealthy that an adult might elect to do. Like fishing for King crab in the Bering Sea, working as a white-water rafting guide, or eating at McDonald's every day.
Say we close these bars- whom have we helped? We will have replaced a sketchy job (one that only smokers would be particularly likely to seek in the first place) with "no job". Is it certain that these jobs, this business, will be replaced with something healthy that will now employ the people thus displaced?
Deval Patrick is a scumbag
That's two scumbag governors in a row. Stop electing these people. Please.
Oh, LaTulippe
Just mad that the White Horse photo booth is more popular than you are.
Of course it is
Girls like attention. I can give it to 'em, but I'm no match for a camera.
When they passed the smoking
When they passed the smoking ban in bars in Los Angeles in 1998, six months later they conducted a survey of employeees at said locations to see if they had better health. 20% of those polled said they had better health, while 40% said they were suffering from unemployment.
Apparently, some places were only frequented by smokers (when you had to buy a smoking license) so once it was outlawed, places just shut down.
Why is there a ban on cigar bars? For the children?