It is an unsubstantiated rumor. Go back and read the source of it: body leaves the prison, someone says "murder last night" with no evidence, others repeat it.
90 years old, not in great health, stressed by move. bye!
And only had info that he was dead, Now that I hear he was beaten with a padlock and had his eye gouged out, I say again.. good.
This isn't a pot dealer in prison it's a serial killing monster and it looks like he got a little gangsters justice. Good riddance. When he was pulling the teeth and cutting off the hands of his victims i'm sure he wasn't worrying about their families.
You're right murder isn't good, but sometimes you just shrug your shoulders and say , oh well.
Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Let's examine the facts a ninety year old man is suddenly transferred to a new prison where he is murdered the day before a rally which will be covered by all Boston media. The Feds must be calling the Saudi secret police to come up with a plausible story. Whitey was a stone cold killer but his friends in law enforcement and politics were just as guilty
When I read about one of today's gangsters saying "(expletive) the police": They're missing the point, because Whitey became one of the best ever at his horrible calling precisely because he bought cops, federal ones at that.
"Don't call me Whitey" Bulger's alleged purpose as an FBI informant was to inform on the Mafia. They've been waiting for a long time to take Whitey out, and the opportunity finally came. Good riddance.
Sure, but the government was well aware of the fact that other gangsters in prison might want Whitey dead, and made a decision to move him to a prison where he got killed. That doesn't make you even a little bit curious about their decision process? Like maybe Whitey knew some things about the FBI and everyone knows he's not above snitching, so maybe it's better to house him with some mafia types for a little while?
TMZ is reporting that he was wheeled in his chair into a corner of room with poor security camera coverage and was beaten to death and had his eyes gouged out by a group of three men.
About his time on the run through his incarceration just got its ending and one hell of a plot twist. Who gets to it first: Damon, an Affleck, a Wahlberg, or Depp?
I read (here, I thought? this is the only news site I really read) that Howie blindsided Shiva by asking him on the air about his domestic battery arrest.
And I heard Howie shilling for Diehl one time on his show. Yeah I admit it.... I was listening between traffic updates on WBZ.
The UK Daily Mail reports he was placed in general population in a wheelchair and quickly wheeled away by mafia members, beaten with a "lock in a sock" and eyes gouged out. Unreal if true.
He deserved the death penalty years ago but care and custody of inmates is the main responsibility at a prison or even a police station.
I have little faith in the FBI but obviously there's much more to Whitey being moved and killed within a day. If we ever get the true story (not the Cullen version) it will be interesting.
If Whitey was murdered, President Trump should fire the head of the Bureau of Prisons and others for allowing such a high profile prisoner to be killed, as much as Whitey deserved it.
I wholeheartedly agree. I've not a shred of sympathy for Bulger, but if any good can happen from this it might be renewed examination of disgraceful conditions in this prison. Also, do the convictions get vacated if there are any appeals pending a la Hernandez? That'll get people screaming again about how a dead man is getting off easy. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/10/30/james-whitey-bulger-killing...
or watch a movie about this foul POS is beyond me. I'm a white guy who went to school with kids from his southie neighborhood and they were all the worse kind of scumbags. We called them Southie Rats. The worse bullies and assholes in the school. To this day I despise them, although I smh wondering what kind of family environment could produce such nastiness.
bullying is rampant and/or encouraged, or they come from families who simply can't or won't manage their children properly when they're growing up, and/or don't care how their children turn out. Bullies, like their victims, often don't turn out so well, either.
A jury of his peers sentenced him to life in prison. It appears that a 90 year old wheelchair bound was tortured and murdered as the Feds stood by. If his lawyers have filed his appeal are his convictions vacated similar to Aaron Hernandez murder convictions. Shouldn't the FBI recuse themselves from this investigation because of their past corrupt dealings with organized crime in Boston.
Franks co-defendant in his last murder trial was in same prison. How does an 82 year old in poor health goto gen-pop? My theory he was writing a tell all that would bring the FBI and other government to its knees, and now his conviction does get over turned.
No, not in my guts. Does it trouble me that this was allowed to happen under the aegis of our prison system? Yes, absolutely, in my rational self. I'd say, "Burn in hell, evil man", but I don't believe in hell. And I think being brought to justice under the rule of law, and serving the sentence handed down under those laws, is what should be.
Some atavistic part of me wants to enjoy his purportedly gruesome fate, but my rational belief in our justice system overrules that. He should have lived out his days in a tiny cell in a max-security prison, subject to the verdict of a society that understands that imposing a death sentence, or looking the other way when vigilante justice is imposed, doesn't serve our highest moral values.
Yes, fuck that guy. Who should feel regret for his painful death, given the heinous suffering and ruin that he inflicted on our city? Still, I more strongly believe that eye-for-an-eye justice (sorry, no joke intended) is barbaric, and still want to believe that we Americans are not yet barbarians.
You want to make people regret capital crimes? Keep them in prison, and make them eat prison food to the end of their days. Whitey got off too easy.
however, is not the least bit surprising. As a matter of fact, in a way, it had been a long time coming. He was an extremely nasty, dangerous piece of work, supported and coddled by the FBI, and by certain elements in the South Boston community. One could easily say that at least Whitey Bulger is no longer at large and killing ordinary citizens, but at the same time I agree that execution, even of deadly criminals like Whitey Bulger, is not the way to go.
Is "serial-killing" an appropriate description? That suggests someone who kills randomly for the sake of killing. Whitey's violence was a means to and end.
Comments
Good News
One less scumbag in the world is a good thing
Murder is never good news
It doesn't matter whether the victim was a good guy or a scumbag.
The murder thing is not news at all
It is an unsubstantiated rumor. Go back and read the source of it: body leaves the prison, someone says "murder last night" with no evidence, others repeat it.
90 years old, not in great health, stressed by move. bye!
Welp
The Globe says it murder, in a story by Shelley Murphy and Kevin Cullen, and they, more than anybody else, would know.
There are stories on the wire
There are stories on the wire that quote unnamed prison sources that hat he was beaten beyond recognition.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/10
https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/30/mob-boss-whitney-bulger-killed-by-three-m...
According to the NYT: https:
According to the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/obituaries/whitey-bulger-dead.html
Cullen would definitely know....
"A popular Boston Globe columnist was placed on administrative leave after allegations that he embellished accounts of the Boston Marathon bombings."
Murder is so such a harsh term...
How about Justice. Execution.
You don't murder a piece of shit. You dispose of it.
I posted my comment earlier
And only had info that he was dead, Now that I hear he was beaten with a padlock and had his eye gouged out, I say again.. good.
This isn't a pot dealer in prison it's a serial killing monster and it looks like he got a little gangsters justice. Good riddance. When he was pulling the teeth and cutting off the hands of his victims i'm sure he wasn't worrying about their families.
You're right murder isn't good, but sometimes you just shrug your shoulders and say , oh well.
Yeah but he escaped the
Yeah but he escaped the worlds greatest punishment: having to live in the hellhole that is West Virginia.
sing it, John Denver
Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Mark Strong (Merlin) in the 2nd Kingsman flick..
Does a nice rendition of this just prior to being blown to bits...
And you've been there, right?
!
Have you
Ever been to WV?
Beautiful place
Probably too many poor people for you too feel comfortable there though.
So I take it West Virginia is
So I take it West Virginia is on your list of ahit hole states? It's funny how your views parallel Trump's views.
The only trouble is, however,
that there'll always be other scumbags to take their place, if one gets the drift.
Feds have some explaining to do
Let's examine the facts a ninety year old man is suddenly transferred to a new prison where he is murdered the day before a rally which will be covered by all Boston media. The Feds must be calling the Saudi secret police to come up with a plausible story. Whitey was a stone cold killer but his friends in law enforcement and politics were just as guilty
Not sure if trolling...
or mentally ill.
Like I always say
When I read about one of today's gangsters saying "(expletive) the police": They're missing the point, because Whitey became one of the best ever at his horrible calling precisely because he bought cops, federal ones at that.
lol
some equally old mobster probably saw him walking and decided to relive the glory days and take out a guy who snitched on the mafia for years.
Exactly
"Don't call me Whitey" Bulger's alleged purpose as an FBI informant was to inform on the Mafia. They've been waiting for a long time to take Whitey out, and the opportunity finally came. Good riddance.
Sure, but the government was
Sure, but the government was well aware of the fact that other gangsters in prison might want Whitey dead, and made a decision to move him to a prison where he got killed. That doesn't make you even a little bit curious about their decision process? Like maybe Whitey knew some things about the FBI and everyone knows he's not above snitching, so maybe it's better to house him with some mafia types for a little while?
follow up
TMZ is reporting that he was wheeled in his chair into a corner of room with poor security camera coverage and was beaten to death and had his eyes gouged out by a group of three men.
Good points, anon.
This:
is true enough, anon. Most of Whitey Bulger's victims, however, weren't so innocent either.
The movie
About his time on the run through his incarceration just got its ending and one hell of a plot twist. Who gets to it first: Damon, an Affleck, a Wahlberg, or Depp?
Wahlberg is a violent
Wahlberg is a violent psychopath, he'd seem like a natural.
He's not dead
He's probably on his way back to Southie or Santa Monica, after having slipped a couple mil to some prison guards.
Does Howie Carr ...
have an alibi?
Yeah, he was seen at a Geoff Diehl rally
waving a confederate flag.
Dats
Mean you meany
Not a Shiva rally?
Oh, Howie.
Howie is a Diehl guy, and humiliated Shiva on the air
I read (here, I thought? this is the only news site I really read) that Howie blindsided Shiva by asking him on the air about his domestic battery arrest.
And I heard Howie shilling for Diehl one time on his show. Yeah I admit it.... I was listening between traffic updates on WBZ.
Seriously,
I was almost tempted to tune in to Howie today to hear him eulogize Whitey.
Almost.
Well that's a relief.
Well that's a relief.
Did he know where the Gardner
Did he know where the Gardner paintings were? Hmmmm
That's common knowledge
Where they were... right there in the Gardner.
It's the question of where they are now that's the real puzzler.
Where's the champagne?
WBZ: Widow Of Man Killed By Whitey Bulger: ‘I’d Like To Open Up A Champagne Bottle And Celebrate’.
Also: Whitey Bulger Killed: ‘Informants Don’t Do Well In Prison’.
Who can we thank?
Who can we thank?
maybe Freddy Geas
From West Springfield.
What goes around comes around I guess?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/10/30/freddy-geas-suspected-kille...
Thrown in general population in wheelchair?
The UK Daily Mail reports he was placed in general population in a wheelchair and quickly wheeled away by mafia members, beaten with a "lock in a sock" and eyes gouged out. Unreal if true.
He deserved the death penalty years ago but care and custody of inmates is the main responsibility at a prison or even a police station.
I have little faith in the FBI but obviously there's much more to Whitey being moved and killed within a day. If we ever get the true story (not the Cullen version) it will be interesting.
If Whitey was murdered, President Trump should fire the head of the Bureau of Prisons and others for allowing such a high profile prisoner to be killed, as much as Whitey deserved it.
Appeal pending? Convictions vacated?
I wholeheartedly agree. I've not a shred of sympathy for Bulger, but if any good can happen from this it might be renewed examination of disgraceful conditions in this prison. Also, do the convictions get vacated if there are any appeals pending a la Hernandez? That'll get people screaming again about how a dead man is getting off easy. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/10/30/james-whitey-bulger-killing...
Why anyone would make a movie
or watch a movie about this foul POS is beyond me. I'm a white guy who went to school with kids from his southie neighborhood and they were all the worse kind of scumbags. We called them Southie Rats. The worse bullies and assholes in the school. To this day I despise them, although I smh wondering what kind of family environment could produce such nastiness.
Read "All Souls"
And maybe you'll learn more about what it was like to grow up there.
I grew up socio-economically similar to them
And in the city, just another neighborhood. I don't need to learn anything from that book or a movie.
Bullies generally come from families where
bullying is rampant and/or encouraged, or they come from families who simply can't or won't manage their children properly when they're growing up, and/or don't care how their children turn out. Bullies, like their victims, often don't turn out so well, either.
Natural cause of death
Bulger died of natural causes, natural to his line of work.
Whitey's gone to hell
A jury of his peers sentenced him to life in prison. It appears that a 90 year old wheelchair bound was tortured and murdered as the Feds stood by. If his lawyers have filed his appeal are his convictions vacated similar to Aaron Hernandez murder convictions. Shouldn't the FBI recuse themselves from this investigation because of their past corrupt dealings with organized crime in Boston.
good riddance - enjoy the slow burn.
Good riddance - enjoy the slow burn.
Make no mistake - Jim Bulger was pure evil to the core.
I'm still surprised he wasn't killed on the streets before fleeing town.
hopefully, the families of his victims can take some comfort in this news.
Bill and Jack will be filing a wrongful death suit in 3, 2, 1
I hope he died in absolute fear
And I hope he suffered all night.
I want to see the video.
Murderous scum that lived by the and died by the sword.
Someone should talk to Cadillac Frank
Franks co-defendant in his last murder trial was in same prison. How does an 82 year old in poor health goto gen-pop? My theory he was writing a tell all that would bring the FBI and other government to its knees, and now his conviction does get over turned.
Am I sorry that Whitey came to this end?
No, not in my guts. Does it trouble me that this was allowed to happen under the aegis of our prison system? Yes, absolutely, in my rational self. I'd say, "Burn in hell, evil man", but I don't believe in hell. And I think being brought to justice under the rule of law, and serving the sentence handed down under those laws, is what should be.
Some atavistic part of me wants to enjoy his purportedly gruesome fate, but my rational belief in our justice system overrules that. He should have lived out his days in a tiny cell in a max-security prison, subject to the verdict of a society that understands that imposing a death sentence, or looking the other way when vigilante justice is imposed, doesn't serve our highest moral values.
Yes, fuck that guy. Who should feel regret for his painful death, given the heinous suffering and ruin that he inflicted on our city? Still, I more strongly believe that eye-for-an-eye justice (sorry, no joke intended) is barbaric, and still want to believe that we Americans are not yet barbarians.
You want to make people regret capital crimes? Keep them in prison, and make them eat prison food to the end of their days. Whitey got off too easy.
The fact that Whitey Bulger met such a grisly end,
however, is not the least bit surprising. As a matter of fact, in a way, it had been a long time coming. He was an extremely nasty, dangerous piece of work, supported and coddled by the FBI, and by certain elements in the South Boston community. One could easily say that at least Whitey Bulger is no longer at large and killing ordinary citizens, but at the same time I agree that execution, even of deadly criminals like Whitey Bulger, is not the way to go.
I wonder if we'll hear some
I wonder if we'll hear some reaction from Knuckles.
https://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/chris-nilan-whitey-bulger....
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/08/13/chris-nilan-whitey-bulger-didnt-g...
Is "serial-killing" an
Is "serial-killing" an appropriate description? That suggests someone who kills randomly for the sake of killing. Whitey's violence was a means to and end.
At first, I was going to go with "mass murderer"
But that implies somebody who kills a number of people at once, so I figured "serial" would do, since he killed a lot of people in, well, a series.
Yup.
This:
is something that I tend to agree with.