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You don't have to get a "real ID"
You can ask for the regular one, and use a passport to get into government facilities and on planes if you need to do so.
Doesn't answer my only question
Which is how any of this makes anything safer for anybody. If* the metal detectors and K-9s and naked scanners and aggressive pat-downs at the airports are working as intended, what is the point of needing an ID in the first place?
*"If"
The Answer
If you're not inconvenienced and the government doesn't spend a ton of money on useless crap THE TERRORISTS WIN.
Real answer: It's about making it as hard as possible to be an immigrant or poor in this country for despicable political reasons.
Actually I think this will help poor people in the long run
The ID can be used for federal purposes in lieu of a Passport which are far more expensive and difficult to obtain.
No
No one should need an ID to get onto a federal building, fly a plane, vote, etc. It's easier for an actual terrorist to get a passable ID then it is for someone homeless to get a real one.
They already do weapons checks regardless. The only purpose of the ID is to add a step for people who are lacking of time, money, or documentation.
The ACLU agrees with you
Here's hoping
This bullshit gets repealed before I need a new driver's license in 2023.
You don't have to play
You can renew on line and not get the special gold star, and just get a passport (not that expensive compared to the cost of a car) if you want to travel.
Papers
This reminds me of those movies that take place in bleak, police state countries where citizens are always being told "show me your papers".
Ihre Papiere, Bitte!
n/t
What I really don't
What I really don't understand is why they're going to offer choice of a REAL-compliant ID/license or a non-compliant ID/license - at the same price!
If the non-compliant old format cost less, I could understand keeping it as an option for people on a tight budget who don't anticipate traveling by air or any other circumstance where they'd need it (or that they already have a passport and don't mind carrying that on those occasions). But - they're charging the same. Why not just make all future IDs REAL-compliant, if there's no difference in cost?
I would assume they want to
I would assume they want to offer the convenience of renewing online for people who: do not fly, would rather use their passport at the airport vs. stepping foot in an RMV, are part of the Global Entry program which can be used as a Federal ID at the airport (maybe others).
My license is up in 2019, however since I have global entry I don't see any reason to gather all these documents and spend a miserable morning at the RMV vs. using my entry card and keeping a standard license.
Cost not a factor
Because many folks don't have the docs to qualify for a REAL-compliant ID. As the Dog noted above, this has nothing to do with security, everything to do with immigration.
Fewer documents?
The non-compliant license requires fewer documents. Maybe they want to have an option for people who can't or don't want to provide more forms of documentation.
federal court houses
What happens if you need to go to federal court (for jury duty, for example.) after 2020 and don't have one of those new IDs? They just don't let you in?
Interestingly, jury duty
Interestingly, jury duty summons is one of the background documents you can use to get the REAL ID.
...but then when they summon you, you can't get in for duty
...so you get in trouble, and need even more forms of ID to get out...
...and then...
It has potential for a good, circular nonsense logic, freeze the androids' brains scenario:
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I recently renewed my Mass
I recently renewed my Mass license in the hopes that it was Real ID compliant, is it not? That would suck.
Compliance
Citizens and authorized aliens who have a star in the upper right corner of their state-issued license are in compliance with the federal government.
The re-education on government paperwork compliance has not been completed yet. 2014 was the start date and compliance must be complete by 2020.
Thanks
To both of you.
READ ID cannot be obtained
READ ID cannot be obtained until March 26th and you need to get the REAL ID in person at the RMV or a participating AAA (if you are a member).
Because the 9/11 hijackers
had all entered this country illegally (they did not), and didn't use their real identities (they did). They literally walked through the front door using their real names and real passports.
This isn't about stopping terrorism, it's about issuing a near-mandatory de facto national identity document, to which the US has always been resistant.
Waving fees for IDs and Birth Certificates?
[Suggestion] Fees for IDs and Birth Certificates shall be setup so the fees can be waved in appropriate circumstances or IDs and Birth Certificates shall be available without fees. Particularly for Veterans or for homeless folks, for streetpeople, for less enfranchised folks.
Please see also https://www.google.com/search?q=dershowitz+ids