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White supremacists, gay haters march down Boylston, outnumbered by protesters; police pepper spray protesters, arrest them
By adamg on Sat, 08/31/2019 - 6:53pm
He only looks like a spotted dick from behind; he's really a Trump dinosaur. Photo by Kris Haight.
A couple of hundred Trump-supporting racists and bigots marched down Boylston and Tremont streets today, vastly outnumbered by both police and by protesters.
The entirety of the "parade" in Copley Square (photo by Jan; compare to the number of marchers in the 2017 women's march):
The corner of Boylston and Tremont proved a flashpoint for police, who arrested some protesters and sprayed others with pepper spray (photos by Popoulis):
Pepper spray out pic.twitter.com/TFZzb0NTBg
— El-0)))nn (@popoulis) August 31, 2019
Pepper-sprayed protester being treated with milk in his eyes:
NBC Boston reports 34 arrests. Many of these, and more pepper spraying, came after the official end of the march, when police wanted to clear Congress Street:
Boston Police Department spraying pepper spray into the crowd of protestors of the Straight Pride Parade #boston #straightpride #cityhall #pepperspray #protests #policebrutality pic.twitter.com/TLTIbdcu2A
— Lizzie Heintz (@lizzieheintz) August 31, 2019
Claire Blechman reports:
The rally was over and the cops came blowing through pepper spraying, beating people, and making arrests for no reason. All they had to do was let people leave, but instead they made a riot.
Protesters, of course, had signs:
The Trump supporters had a "bridge:"
At Park Street, protesters chanted "Boston hates you" at the Trumpkins and friends:
.@universalhub "Boston Hates You! #StraightPride #StraightPrideParade #Boston pic.twitter.com/LF3Z0Hs1EI
— Craig Caplan © (@CappyinBoston) August 31, 2019
Before the march began, protesters gathered at City Hall Plaza to gear up. One white supremacist decided to hit the bricks as well:
There were a lot of cops - BPD was joined by officers from neighboring communities:
In the end, the racists scurried out of town under the Haymarket garage.
Adam Pieniazek is hopeful some good might actually come out of this:
The best part of this tiny thing is it shows us shutting down major streets in Boston is easy! That's great news for car-free, bus only lane, protected bike lane & pedestrian street advocates. How about daily Newbury street pedestrian pride parades?
We should definitely organize tons of car-free, protected bike lane, bus only lane, fix the T, NSRL, pedestrian zone, & fare-free MBTA pride parades constantly every day possible.
Kris Haight posted way more photos.
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I know this is a liberal website but...
I’m really not seeing any connection to white supremacy. Seems like they just like the president and are ultimate trolls
The organizers ...
Several are known white supremecists. If you're really interested, I can dig up a link or two for you, but, honestly, I provided one in the post on the topic I did a couple days ago if you can't wait for me to get back from dinner.
White power hand gesture sign in first pic
They're identifying themselves.
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gesture
Is it fake news if it's a just plain lie?
"White power hand gesture sign in first pic"
Idiot.
He's holding a camera.
Unless there's another one only dog-whistlers can see...if there is, please, point it out.
They're talking about the
They're talking about the sign, not the guy holding the camera.
Of course. It couldn't be anything else...
https://summit.news/2019/05/14/gay-liberal-atheist...
So, who's trolling who?
What is Summit News?
From its title, I expected it to be a site about hiking and mountain climbing, but that's not what I found there. The site has no "about" page describing it, so I have no idea how to evaluate its reliability or accuracy.
Well, there's a link...
Well, there's a link...
...but you probably need that explained to you.
From the link:
"Stephen Fry
Verified account @stephenfry
May 13
PS: I really will not allow the simple (hand) gesture to belong to the moronic dogwhistling catfishing foghorning frogmarching pigsticking dickwaving few who attempt to appropriate it for their own fatuous fantasies. T"
Here, I'll do the heavy lifting.
https://twitter.com/stephenfry/status/1127844934734700545?ref_src=twsrc%...
Evaluate that. Damn, Mr. Fry has a way with words.
I'm sick of reading racist bullshit from leftie assholes (hey if you can say 'fuck' constantly, I can use colorful language, too) that turn everything into a racist trope. There's a pic online of noted economist and member of the house AOC using the AOK sign.
Grow the fuck up.
Tell yourself whatever you
Tell yourself whatever you have to, man. Jesus.
You're funny
Of course gestures can have multiple meanings. However, do you really think these parade marchers really think everything is A-OK?
Of course not. That's why they're marching: They're against everything America is becoming.
Everything isn't A-OK to them and the OH sign is a known gesture with a known meaning when used by people who believe in "white power."
Summit News? Give a me a frigging break.
Captain Jack Danilecki used
Either you're the idiot or this is expert trolling
It's the sign behind the guy with the camera. You know, the one you zoomed in on.
Idiot.
Truth be told, Anon...
...I didn't see it.
What are the words on the sign?
Do you remember what it said when you took this photo? Unfortunately (maybe because of bright sunshine) I can't read the words, which are written in yellow.
White Supremacists?
They love Trump and had a "Build The Wall" float. Do they have to wear white hoods before you figure it out?
C'mon
There are a lot of people that like Trump and say build the wall that are a far cry from white supremacists. By that definition, like 30% of Americans are white supremacists.
Careful
There are readers of this website who truly believe 30% of Americans are white supremacists.
I sparred about this being a white supremacist rally when the git thing was announced. I supposed there is too much nuance to say that it's a rally arranged by white supremacists, and since the organizers are white supremacists, I suppose Adam (and others) have cause to call it a white supremacist rally, even though it is not.
In the end, all of this is a total crock, from end to end. People like to hate, and this group of haters gave those who hate them a chance to get together and hate each other today. Me, I had fun with my son miles away from all of this.
wow
Is this sarcasm? The mental gymnastics required to read this paragraph — let alone to write it — are Bilesian level.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is not a duck because it didn’t tell me so explicitly.
Bingo. You've nailed it.
"In the end, all of this is a total crock, from end to end."
"...I suppose Adam (and others) have cause to call it a white supremacist rally, even though it is not."
Well, in the face of a lack of actual Nazis, some must be created. For instance, here's an Actual Nazi (you can tell by the Trump shirt) being
violently assaultedengaged in an intelligent discussion bya bunch of thugsa couple of peaceful protesters that I hope will probably be arrested, if they haven't been already.I assume some cellar dweller here will comment that he should have been bicycle-locked. I don't think we really want to go down that road...
lol
by golly, he’s almost got it!
Fox News poll: 56 percent of
Fox News poll: 56 percent of respondents believe telling people of color to "go back" is racist, while 23 percent said it is not and 18 percent said it depends.
Governor Baker didn't equivocate
It's hopeless, Stevil
Must uphold the narrative...truth is the first casualty...for instance...
From the NBC10 'news' article AG cited above that was not biased in any way...by the 'journalists' Nathalie Sczublewski, Young-Jin Kim and Michael Manzoni.
"Former Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos, who is banned from social media networks, was expected to serve as grand marshal."
Left out...Milo is gay.
Pic from Boston Herald. They have an extensive collection of shots of the parade and the protesters.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/08/31/counterpro...
Big deal, everyone has that
Big deal, everyone has that one black friend too!
If by 'black friend' you mean 'Parade Marshal'...
"Big deal, everyone has that one black friend too!"
Milo had some black friends, too. Lefties worst nightmare...black friends that won't do what you tell them...
Pics are from the article in the Boston Globe.
Milo the alt right poster boy
Milo the alt right poster boy? Milo the guy who's been banned from every major social media platform for hate speech? Milo the guy who was fired from Breitbart, of all places, for advocating in favor of pedophilia? This is the guy you're hanging your hat on? Are you for real with this shit? Try doing some critical thinking instead of just accepting wholesale everything that Fox News and Howie Carr tell you to think.
Milo? The guy who literally
Milo? The guy who literally mainstreamed white supremacy when he was at Breitbart? Good example.
Sounds about right
For a country where, within my own lifetime, black people were legally forbidden from riding in the front half of the bus, using white people's restrooms and drinking fountains, and attending white people's schools, 30% sounds about right. Attitudes don't change overnight.
Funny
I was just at Granite Links and there was a wedding about to take place. Didn't see the bride and groom, but it was decidedly a mixed race crowd. Having just been to the Museum of African American History i couldn't help but think how far we've come in one generation.
If you live in some land where 30% of the people are white supremacists, I feel sorry for you. It's definitely NOT where I live.
Please show your math.
If I understand you correctly
If I understand your argument correctly, it's, approximately, "I saw a mixed race event, therefore racism isn't a thing."
No
Just interpreted a single event in the context of the world I see around me every day.
And you didn't say racism - you said white supremacists - big difference.
Where's your math? How can 30% of the population be a white supremacist - or a number even close to that? Please cite demographic statistics and any other stats you can find to get to a number remotely close to that. Or are you just trying to be as divisive as humanly possible because it serves some sleazy purpose of yours?
Classic
"White Man Argues White Supremacy Isn't a Thing Because of a Thing He Saw Once, Argues With Another White Man About It"
Learn your history...
Here's the TL;DR version...
Civil War gets fought. Slaves freed. South not happy, but the Emancipator is dead and no one can fill his shoes. South does 'separate but equal'. Railroads try to fight it, 'cause running a separate car for one black guy costs money. Plessey makes an issue, goes to Supreme Court. Plessey v Fergusen becomes the law of the land. Until the Brown v Board decision, 1955(4?), separate but equal rules.
Little girl wants to go to Little Rock High. Uppity Negroes cannot be permitted there.
President Eisenhower, a Republican, sends in 101st Airborne (82? I forget), federalizes the Arkansas National Guard, kicks back to watch the fireworks.
Little girl goes to school, Norman Rockwell paints evocative work for Saturday Evening Post.
Sixties happen, LBJ makes famous statement about somebody voting Democrat 'for the next 200 years'.
All is well in the Republic until Trump becomes President, then US becomes mostly Nazi.
Did I miss anything?
forgotten from the list:
mass lynchings,
wanton destruction of homes and businesses,
sun-down towns,
Jim Crow,
sharecropping,
forced land requisition,
vagrancy laws,
forced sterilizations,
the military air-bombing of Black Wall St in Tulsa,
redlining,
divestment in schools,
lack of job training and opportunities,
a manufactured crack epidemic,
the War on Drugs,
felony disenfranchisement,
a de facto caste system
(what else? I know I missed some)
Yes we live in a society built and perpetuated by and for white supremacy.
Anyone who is not ready for a wholesale revolution is propping up the status quo.
People, all of us living under these circumstances are perpetuating white supremacy simply by being just another cog in this infernal wheel.
Would you not agree that more than 30% are ok with the status quo?
You can look through the pics
You can look through the pics on social media or flickr and find plenty of overt symbols & a few serious dog-whistles tied inextricably to white supremacists-white nationalists.
Among the people definitely identified was John Camden, a guy from New Hampshire who had an official role in the American Guard, a neo-nazi group. He was initially noticed because of the nazi "wolfsangel" tattoo on his neck that could be seen in one of the news photos (he later covered it). People more familiar with him then IDed him from the photo.
Here's one link to the twitter exchange, but there were many other people who IDed him:
The affiliation between parade organizers, supporters, and invited guests, and neofascist, incel, and/or white nationalist groups and people, has been covered since the parade was first announced. It has been covered in the press and on social media.
And Milo Yiannopoulos, parade booster & grand marshal (though he was a no show) hardly needs to have his alt-right ties listed again.
Maybe we need to start applying to UHub my twitter rule:
Lack of precision...
...or just plain lying. Hard to tell these days...
"And Milo Yiannopoulos, parade booster & grand marshal (though he was a no show) hardly needs to have his alt-right ties listed again."
Very sloppy, bookie, considering that there is not only one, but two pics of Mr. Y at the parade. Both pics from legit news media (Globe and Herald), and I tried to give credit to the sources.
Considering one was posted several hours before your comment...very sloppy.
Interesting. I made a mistake
Interesting. I made a mistake. And yet my mistake proves my point-- the ties to white supremacists were overt & covered by the media at length, as your post shows. Anyone playing naive about parade participant's rightwing white nationalist ties is being deliberately obtuse.
dmcboston is a joke.
he’s been shooting his own arguments down all over this page lol. i don’t think he can be taken seriously.
Stick with music
Just sayin'.
“Stick with music”? Really?
Please, dmc, do share with us the credentials that make your opinions more valid than posters here with other professions or avocations.
I’m just some dude with a side hustle as a restaurant critic, so I’m struggling to see your particular specialness as a political commentator. To me, you look like yet another intellectually dishonest right-winger whose “I’m a lifelong Democrat” shtick is a comically lame fig leaf.
From where I’m sitting, you’re merely another propaganda-bubble-dwelling Trumpie, a dumb retweeter of easilly-debunked Fox News talking points, a rhetorical paper tiger. If I got my ass handed to me on the facts as often as you do here, I would delete my account out of shame.
Everybody gets to air their opinions online these days. Your tragedy is believing that your second-hand, garden-variety bigotry somehow deserves serious consideration, when the reality is that you’re just the obnoxious, racist drunk uncle that Mom can’t bring herself to disinvite from Thanksgiving.
Just sayin’.
LOL
"Interesting. I made a mistake."
Thus proving your point? Damn, that's some Oberlin level logic you got there, bookie.
Lemme see..."the ties to white supremacists were overt & covered by the media at length, as your post shows"
Interesting. You made a mistake.
Yes you did. It proves nothing except that you have self -fulfilling preconceived notions. Let's make a list of the Actual Nazis that were in the various photos...Milo, noted Nazi and gay conservative provocateur, the Nazi racist black guys (everyone needs black friends!), the gay Nazi couple in one of the pics, maybe we should just throw the Log Cabin Republicans and the Pink Pistols in the mix.
When everyone's an Actual Nazi, yet there's a mix of a wide variety of folks, maybe you should check your privilege...and your assumptions.
Sorry, not buying the bullshit, considering the left's penchant for, well, insane bullshit. Oh, and bicycle locks. Thank God the guy that got assaulted (pic elsewhere on Uhub) was only spat upon and punched.
Oy what a day
I took the photos (on flickr)
I also was very close to the video of the pepper spray going off above. I got a wiff of it and high tailed it outta there. I had a GoPro with me which someone told me to turn off, just before that happened, which I told them it's on for safety.
I have a few hours of video to edit too. Not sure how i can piece it all together so it makes sense, or when I can do it (mebbe a few days?).
Great "dinosaur" photo
Well done, good sir.
These trolls got their 15 min
These trolls got their 15 min
And if people ignored them
They would have gotten the same amount of fame as the Black Israelite who gather at the Common every week-end would have gotten.
Waquoit is waquoiting again.
Spoken with absolute confidence and zero evidence.
It doesn't work that way, as you'd know if you were ever on the other side of the equation. But do go on (as if you ever wouldn't) advising oppressed people how best to alleviate their oppression.
Unimaginative language
"Straight people be straight fucking up my Saturday" (whatever the F that means), "this is our fucking city", "fuck your straight pride". That's just three I found in these photos and I'm sure there were many more. It is apparently official that all signs and t shirts against white supremacists MUST contain the F bomb. I don't like or see the point of the white supremacists, but it's hard to align oneself with the ineloquence of the protesters either. They don't inspire.
good thing
good thing these weren't videos.. you'd hate the way the crowd was.
Lots of F bombs.
F word
People that use that word or display it on signs are stooping to the level of the marchers. You don’t protest bad behavior with bad behavior.
Pretty sure using the word
Pretty sure using the word "fuck" isn't stooping as low as threatening to kick everyone brown, black, Jewish, or Muslim out of the US, and defending slavery, but I'm no Emily Post. If they bother you equally, well...
Sounds reasonable...
"...as low as threatening to kick everyone brown, black, Jewish, or Muslim out of the US, and defending slavery, but I'm no Emily Post."
You might want to look up the word 'hyperbole' in the dictionary.
There were flags of Israel in the parade, as well as these guys:
I'll bet they felt more fear from your antifa thugs and protesters than from your Nazis that want to 'send them back'.
Look, follow the stories in the Globe or Herald. Plenty of pics. There's truth in the pics, for those that want the truth instead of blind hate.
So you're cool with Sahady,
So you're cool with Sahady, Hugo, et al's affiliation with BasedStickman's Resist Marxism group, and the Proud Boys, and the American Guard-- affiliations which been covered by Vox, the Independent UK, the Daily Beast, and any number of other mainstream sites.
Fine, DMC. Now we know what you find acceptable.
"Fine, DMC. Now we know what you find acceptable."
Were any of them actually at the parade? If you say you didn't see them...it must be true. You managed to miss the Parade Marshal, declaring him a 'no show'. So, your testimony is questionable, at best, and just plain BS at worst.
Tell ya what, let's do Shahady, cause I ain't got all night. Let's see what we can find in a hurry about your little Hitlers...https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/mark-sahady/
FTA: He welcomed illegal aliens to Nancy Pelosi's Napa Valley estate, apologizing for her security and need I say it...walls. He flashed the three percent sign, Noted lawsuit losing race hustling entity SPLC (which I actually financially backed back in the day, when they sued the KKK for their clubhouse, and won) said, "...gesture “symbolizes their belief in the disputed claim that only three percent of American colonists fought against the British in the American Revolution. The three extended fingers represent this three percent.”
OK, so using a hand sign that signifies the Colonials that actively fought in the Revolutionary War is, what? Nazi? No, that's just stupid.
Next fact...his post went viral because of the NY Times. LOL...it's the Streisand Effect. I love it. Thank you NY Times.
Next one..."Sahady Is a Republican, & Often Posts Pro-Trump Statuses on Facebook" There ya go. He's an Actual Nazi.
Finally..."...Proud Boys are not a Washington based group, but a group with members all over the nation. You claim that we displayed ‘well-known Nazi regalia’ on our side. Do you have any pictures to back up your false accusation? You neglect to mention that those organizing the counter protest aimed to shut the rally down, by force if neccessary. You also neglect to mention that the counter protestors attacked our rally with spray paint and bodily fluids, some of which hit the police..."
"However, the Proud Boys organization maintains Sahady is not a member, and never has been."
Well...interesting. So Nazi...
As far as the rest...I stand with Oliver Wendell Holmes. I find freedom of speech acceptable. I'm not a part of them, I might not agree with them, but I do not condone violence to interfere with their Constitutional rights of freedom to peacably assemble...until the hooded savages of antifa show up.
???
It's not protesters job to inspire you with their grammar. Also "ineloquence"? It's a protest...
Oh really?
It isn't the protesters job to want to stir people to positive action? To make people inspired to be on the side of right? It's only their job to vulgarly shout down the so-called Nazis and then go home to their suburbs and college dorms? Sounds like a half-assed job to me.
You may not be from around
You may not be from around here: in Boston, "fuck" is just a part of speech, not a swear. While it CAN be a verb or an insult, it's primary purpose is as "fuckin'", a simple intensifier.
"I fuckin' hate these fuckin' idiot homophobes who came to THIS fuckin' place with their fuckin' truck."
It's not a serious swear like "d**n" or "h**l", or something like that. It's just, y'know, "fuck."
Then you would have really loved the Women's March
F bombs, hats with images of loose meat curtains, some worn by toddler aged girls. Classy stuff. And rightly protected by first amendment.
"this is our fucking city"
You do know who first said this, and why? Or maybe you don't live anywhere near here, so you don't.
Uh, there are Nazis marching in the street...
And we're emulating a fucking baseball player?
I wouldn't have minded they
I wouldn't have minded they emulated The Baseball Furies on them!
https://thewarriors.neoseeker.com/wiki/Baseball_Furies
Uh, there are Nazis parading in the street
and you don't like the _protestors' language??_
Oh look!
An anonymous poster is Concerned. Look how Concerned they are! Oh god, I just rolled my eyes so hard I strained my optic nerves.
Welp, you sure showed that
Welp, you sure showed that people cursing is just as bad and dangerous as bigotry and hatred. Congrats and recognizing that both sides are equally bad, and choosing to stay uninspired.
one good sign read:
"Straight Pride" is a mockery of the struggles of LGBTQ+ community
No, it's not "official" or universal
I also saw, among other slogans with no "offensive" words in them, "We're Allies, not Axis," "Love is Love," and "Fighting oppression since Pharaoh." If you prefer "straight people are ruining my Saturday" and "stuff your 'straight pride' in a hole in the ground," go ahead and carry one of those signs. But somehow, since you're saying you "don't like or see the point" of white supremacists but can't be bothered to align yourself with people fighting for justice because we say "fuck" too often, I don't expect to see you out there with a neat "Justice for all means ALL" or "Trans rights are human rights" sign either.
I am sick of having fucking "civility" urged on me as a way of dealing with Nazi sympathizers. There was nothing remotely "civil" or "appropriate" about the people who put my grandfather in a concentration camp, no matter how much neat paperwork they may have had. I will save the civility for politely giving directions to the T yesterday on my way to the protest, and for thanking the Food Not Bombs people for breakfast at the protest, and everyone else who is being friendly or at least neutral to each other, not oh-so-politely trying to take away our rights.
One side uses the F word, the
One side uses the F word, the other celebrates the deportation of dying children from hospitals and taking away children from thier families and locking them in cages. But yeah I can see your point about how it's hard to choose sides.
plenty of G-rated signs too
some I saw yesterday
LIBRARIANS AGAINST IGNORANCE
GOD HATES BIGOTS
ALLIES NOT AXIS
Actually I'm pretty sure we replace you!
replacing you with PRIDE since 1945
Thank you Bigots and Protestors
On behalf of Governor Baker and Mayor Walsh we would like to thank all those who participated in the festival of fools for drawing the media and the publics attention away from corruption in city hall, the methadone mile and the disaster known as the MBTA.
Dinosaurs
Appropriate for many candidates.
Don't we have anyone under 70 that can take a real run at Trump?
What is the fascination with the social security set these days?
No straight pride?
Interesting that all the people the news stations got on camera, none of them mentioned straight pride - they were all 'pro trump' or 'gays are sinners'.
These clowns ended up
These clowns ended up celebrating with dinner in assembly last night. This is how dumb these people are, they pulled up to a restaurant almost completely staffed by immigrants with a giant build the wall float. Im assuming the kitchen ran out of boogers after the appetizers were served.
Straight Pride Dinosaur looks like
a giant ambulatory turd.
Apt!
The funniest part of all this...
There is likely a sizable overlap between people who question the link between this parade and white supremacy and those who allege that Black Lives Matter is an anti law enforcement group.
Dems must unmask, disown their violent Antifa members
Although I hope they don't come to their senses, it's well past time for the Democrat party to take better control over their supporters in the violent, hate-filled Antifa network. Swing voters are watching to see how the Democrat party and their PR wing, the media, play this. So far, they're playing right into Republican hands. May we hear from sometimes front runner Sen. Elizabeth Warren who boasts that she provided the "intellectual foundation" for the Occupy movement staffed mostly with violent far-left Democrat agitators? Do Warren, Kennedy and Markey agree that beatings are justified against anyone wearing Trump gear?
As I predicted before this peaceful parade, it was the far-left activists who engaged in violence on the sidelines. Sure enough, 34 arrests, at least four injured policemen and pictures to prove that merely wearing a shirt with our President's name is enough for a beating. Even the Grand Marshal and other moderate gays were targets of ridicule.
Don't forget, President Nixon's 1972 forty-nine state landslide was due mostly to violent Democrat riots and anti-military/anti-police uprisings like this. Keep it up, please. As for the Straight Pride group, silly but effective in exposing the left and their media brethren.
...
this is great fan fiction
So...
Then we are in agreement that it had fuck-all to do with being proud of heterosexuality?
Because if so, then we can shut it down next time since it was filed under false pretenses.
If they want to hold a pro-Trump, pro-white supremacy, anti-gay rally, then they should have to state that, not lie on official paperwork about their purposes.
Trump?!
Perhaps I missed something, but what the f*ck does "TRUMP 2020" or "BUILD THE WALL" have to do with "straight pride"?
Oh, thats right, these idiots are nothing more than trolls who wanted visibility for their racist and xenophobic viewpoints, because they can't pass an opportunity to make them feel as though they're "owning the libs".
Everyone???????
If the Left is to be taken at all seriously by our civil society it needs to police itself. By comparison during the grass-roots T-Party movement of the early 20-teens -- the streets stayed clean, the people protesting Taxation and Excessive Government were courteous and civil -- you could bring your kids and dogs to a T-Party event with no trepidation.
Now -- we have another supposedly popular movement. Let's start with gratuitous scatological and similar language -- there was a time when using an F or an S word etc -- had some weight -- it meant I F****n hammered my thumb while driving a nail, etc. -- and I'm in real pain. Today F & S words are so common in some circles that -- there is No Impact and No meaning -- especially when splattered all over signs
The people who do such things in public [particularly for their Social Media fan base] think that they are being "Tough" or perhaps demonstrating how profound are their feelings. Especially --- chanting Anonymously behind their Masks -- where Everything is Fnn-this and Snn--that. The masks and the vulgarity doesn't make them stronger or support what argument that they purport to be making.
But beyond just words the Atifa and their ilk engage in pushing, shoving, spitting and abuse of any target that the "Gang"decides to try to intimidate. However, while more violent and vulgar -- Antifa and the varied collection of other "groups" are just as profound as the 20-teens version of the bubble gum chewing "Valley Girl" or the smoked-out guy or gal far more than "One toke over the line" In other words big Zeros.
The reality is -- that Antifa and other others are just acting like the typical school-playground punks. They have Nothing of any importance to say and there is nothing to indicate that there is any "There -- There" underneath the mask. Unfortunately, the overall effect of the "Demonstrators" is to coarsen the general public discourse and regularize conduct that is pernicious and detrimental to civil society.
Many of the participants in these events and movements ["Occupy Wall Street," "Black LIves Matter", Antifa, etc., don't even realize that they are being used by more pernicious and in many cases external forces with their own agendas. In the old days of the Soviet Union and the "Communist International" the variously named "Front Groups" were just facades behind which lurked the KGB. As the old joke used to go about the famous Communist slogan -- "Workers of the World Unite" -- but Solidarność, had a stinging comeback -- "Workers of the World Unite -- Except of course in Poland."
Meanwhile the vast majority of the citizenry go about their everyday lives with an occasional special time, out with their family, neighbors, friends, or just people that they meet on the street -- all in the midst one of the Most prosperous and Freest societies in History.
It's time for the Left's Political Leaders and Thought Leaders to totally and completely disavow Antifa and like anti-democratic forces. Let's get back to a real dialogue about issues and relegate mobs in the streets to the movies.
Cool brain worms, man. You
Cool brain worms, man. You might want to get that looked at.
TL;DR
Like, way TL.
Your ideas are intriguing to
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I am occasionally perplexed by
the Weird and ranDom Use of Capitalization, but I have no problem recognizing that most of the time when someone rants about antifa and doesn't acknowledge the infinitely more serious problem of general thuggishness, growing gun violence and outright terrorism by right-wing extremists, I'm looking at a Nazi-coddler.
You are painfully transparent. We see you for what you are. Don't think for a second that you are fooling *anybody*, Nowy Liberté.