Oklahoma loudmouth says opponents need to get punched in the face, cites beating of Massachusetts senator in 1856
Markwayne Somethingorother, the junior senator from Oklahoma, didn't actually throw down with Teamsters President (and Medford native) Sean O'Brien yesterday, due to a stern talking-to by Bernie Sanders, but he wanted to.
Mad Markwayne, upset by some mean tweets that O'Brien aimed his way, told right-wing media that "every now and then, you need to get punched in the face" and that it's even a venerable Senate tradition, going back to 1856, when some congressman from South Carolina rushed onto the floor the Senate and used a gutta-percha cane to beat Massachusetts Senator Charles Sumner nearly to death, the Hill reports.
The US Senate itself describes what Oklahoma's cage fighter was referring to: In 1856, Sumner, a prominent anti-slavery statesman, had given a five-hour speech against admitting "Bloody Kansas" to the Union as a slave state, in which he denounced two Democratic senators in particular, Stephen Douglas of Illinois (yes, that Stephen Douglas) and Andrew Butler of South Carolina.
He denounced Butler as being in love with a mistress - "who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight - I mean, the harlot, Slavery."
Three days later, while standing near his Senate desk, Sumner was approached by Preston Brooks, a member of the House and a Butler relative. Brooks carried a cane made of gutta-percha, made from the latex of certain Malaysian trees (today used mainly to fill root canals) and topped with metal:
Moving quickly, Brooks slammed his metal-topped cane onto the unsuspecting Sumner's head. As Brooks struck again and again, Sumner rose and lurched blindly about the chamber, futilely attempting to protect himself. After a very long minute, it ended.
Bleeding profusely, Sumner was carried away. Brooks walked calmly out of the chamber without being detained by the stunned onlookers. Overnight, both men became heroes in their respective regions.
Surviving a House censure resolution, Brooks resigned, was immediately reelected, and soon thereafter died at age 37. Sumner recovered slowly and returned to the Senate, where he remained for another 18 years. The nation, suffering from the breakdown of reasoned discourse that this event symbolized, tumbled onward toward the catastrophe of civil war.
So that's what Rage Boy (R-MMA) supports.
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We don't need the resurrections of Union Thuggery
O'Brien was trying to channel Jimmy Hoffa and the other Union Thugs of the Truman and Eisenhower eras -- often using physical force [typically provided by someone a bit lower down in their union hierarchy] to intimidate their opponents
Senator Markwayne Mullen did all of us a service by calling out Sean O'Brien's thuggish attempt to bully via Social Media. When Senator Mullen challenged O'Brien to "put up or shut-up" at the Senate Hearing -- he [O'Brien] rapidly retreated to the sidelines.
Wow
You've been swilling the Qoolaid pretty damn hard this time.
Now go read about the man who finally pushed the Hoffa dynasty out of the teamsters, honey. Look him up.
OK, bootlicker.
Clown.
what we don't need is Confederate thuggery
Are you seriously saying that it's okay to threaten violence against your political opponents because a completely different person beat people up sixty-five years ago?
Oh, I forgot, it's OK when a Republican does it.
How about thuggery 6 years ago?
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/top-chef-trial-padma-lakshmi-teamste...
The Teamsters in particular do have a spicy streak to them. Always have, and if Mr. O'Brien had swung on the Senator it probably would have secured his reelection. It doesn't make them the Cosa Nostra, but they're not exactly the League of Women's Voters, either.
With that said, I have historically generally voted (R) and I find Mullins's acts here thrice vile, first for participating in childish insult-swapping, second for talking smack on the floor, and third for favorably evoking one of the most dishonorable acts to ever take place in the Senate chamber.
So help me out with this
So...the president of the UAW is responsible for what a bunch of local Teamsters did?
That's it? That's what you got?
Insane
Just because you get clowned on by someone on Twitter doesn't mean you're "bullied", especially if you're a public figure with 1% of the power of the Senate at your fingertips.
"Sometimes people need to get punched in the face" is broadcasting your intent to assault, and battery if you follow through with it. This bullshit of "let's pick a time and place and have a cage match" is pure posturing for adulatory sycophants like yourself to feel like he "stood up" for himself, his principles, the conservative way, or whatever bullshit you're snacking on these days.
Grow the fuck up.
You know what's awesome?
I have no idea, nor do I care, what anyone says on twitter.
The idea people should take social media seriously is nuts. Who gives a shit?
Hear, Hear!
Which translated means "hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!” for the folks who take social media seriously.
O'Brien rapidly retreated
O'Brien rapidly retreated nowhere; he remained calmly in his seat the entire time. You can watch it online if you'd like to educate yourself.
Uhhhh
You mean this Sean O'Brien?
Shut the fuck up.
N/t
Typical union response
Really no different than the Trumpies. Congrats!
We have a false equivalence on the play.
10 yard penalty, union first down.
Please explain "typical" using statistics and data regarding both union and employer behavior.
Be sure to include anti-union lying and bullshit in your data set.
Since it’s relevant
Just peruse this guy’s posts. If you don’t think he’s a bully, I’m not sure what to tell you. I can only imagine what he says behind closed doors.
https://twitter.com/TeamsterSOB
You love to throw around this charade of data and statistics, yet rarely do you ‘prove’ your points with them. It’s really interesting behavior. I’m honestly just thankful you’ve dropped the ALL CAPS, pound my feet responses you’re known for.
Please
The dude who leads with "typical union response" is in no position to criticize anyone else's tone or lack of data.
You’re definitely in the running for most posts in a year
I’m rooting for you!
If only ...
The Markwayne and Sean tiff could be super-imposed on a non-stop reel of Josh Hawley running....
Markwayne somesuch...
had a prior (albeit brief) dalliance as a MMA fighter.
Methinks he has roid rage issues.
Sumner
Yet Sumner goes into the books as Massachusetts' greatest senator, and Brooks goes into the book as a seditious southern asshat. Guess his maker had the last laugh, striking him down at the young age of 37.
justice...
It would have been justice served had Preston Brooks survived long enough to be gunned down by a soldier from the 54th Mass in the civil war a few years later in S. Carolina
But...
...Brooks' constituents continued to send him back to the House until he exited toes up.
He denounced Butler as being
God I wish our politicians were still this eloquent. What a statement. HARLOT. Amazing.
I suspect
Markwayne doesn't even know what the word means.
Easy enough to explain
... to someone who is known for selling his body for the entertainment of others.
Just in case anybody missed
Just in case anybody missed it, Mr. Markwayne is putting himself in the role of the slavery-lover here.
What exactly were they arguing about?
Not the 1856 senators -- we all know quite well what they were fighting over. But what exactly is the disagreement between the Teamsters Union president and this Oklahoma seantor?
You’re familiar with comment sections, right?
Well, on Twitter, the Senator disparaged the Teamsters (once a common sight on this webpage) and O’Brien countered, disparaging the Senator. So on and so on. Difference is that these two eventually met in person in a public forum that was televised.
I support O’Brien because I support unions. Funny how many of the same people here who were decrying the tactics of Local 25 a decade ago are now on the bandwagon. Welcome, I guess.
What this account doesn't say...
...is that as Preston Brooks assaulted Charles Sumner (which began with an unannounced blow to the head with the cane's metal head, which left Sumner unable to defend himself or escape the assault), other senators were prevented from going to his aid by two other criminal bootlickers (Laurence Keitt of South Carolina and Henry Edmundson of Virginia), and that Keitt went as far as to brandish a pistol to prevent any intervention. In addition, the pieces of the cane used to nearly kill Charles Sumner were made into rings by Edmundson and given to southern politicians who wore them proudly. Southerners sent Brooks canes as gifts to show their support.
Markwayne Mullin is in the finest tradition of Preston Brooks.
Also, afterwards, Preston
Also, afterwards, Preston Brooks was challenged to a duel, which he accepted and then chickened out of.
The southerners of america
The southerners of america mostly descended from Scott Irish and they brought their customs here including settling perceived insults and disrespect with duels and fights. Northerners having come from south in England had different ways of life and I think this customs are still seen today in both regions of the country
Bullshit
Or have you forgotten that the most famous duel in American history was on the banks of the Hudson River in northern New Jersey between a man as English as you get (Aaron Burr's father was second president of what became Princeton, one of his grandfathers was Congregationalist leader Jonathan Edwards from Northampton) and a man who was, OK, half Scottish, but also half English and Huguenot (and as he lay dying in New York, he asked for and obtained Episcopal communion).
Brooks was simply a little man, a coward, really, who snuck up behind somebody with a large cane.
Wow! 1850 called, they'd like
Wow! 1850 called, they'd like their anti-Irish prejudice back!
I don't think so
Brooks was an apologist for slavery, from a culture of same. You cannot support slavery without believing that those with the power to bludgeon others into doing their will also have the moral right to do so. It's the mentality of the slaver, not any ancestral customs, that were behind this assault.
West Virginia
Ahem.
Please note Sean O'Brien is
Please note Sean O'Brien is not without sin as well.
We all had him confused with the Virgin Mary
Thanks for the clarification. /s
Next you'll be using putsch
Next you'll be using putsch and nazi.
Not for Mullin, maybe
But certainly his god emperor.
Are you worried?
That Markwayne is going to start lamenting about the good acts of the Nazis next?
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