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Man shot to death in Bromley-Heath
By adamg on Tue, 09/27/2016 - 7:32am
A man was fatally shot four times in the upper body shortly around 1 a.m. at 267 Centre St. in the Mildred Hailey Apartments, formerly Bromley-Heath, Kevin Wiles, Jr. and 617 Images report. Boston Police report the victim was in his early 40s.
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Thoughts with the victim
Now when are we going to learn that projects don't work? Am I the only person who watched "Show Me a Hero" on HBO?
wow
You watched a show on
TVHBO? You definitely are an expert based on this.edit - not TV, HBO
Wow
So I'm guessing you must have gone to school for urban design? Please enlighten us and explain why building large public housing projects is a great idea.
They were great at the beginning
The federal government built public housing projects in boston for people to come home post-WWII. People were proud to live in them. Fast forward 60 years of neglect and disrepair, and we have the current situation. Crumbling housing stock.
correct
This is key. They also had programs associated with them. If you go to many Post WWII built projects, you'll see there's spaces for day care, job training, and other stuff. It was meant to build you up so you didn't have to live there forever. They gave you the skills to survive.
But with cuts cuts cuts like the politicians have done.. we're left with no programs and buildings in poor condition.
Edit: Fixed a horrible grammar mistake.
Care to expand on what cuts
Care to expand on what cuts you refer to? All I see is mo money, mo money being poured in.
They are not neglected or in disrepair
In the 1970s and 80s, yes, they were in disrepair. A LOT of that disrepair was caused by tenants. And projects were, especially in the 70s and 80s, VERY dangerous places, even for repairmen, firemen, police, let alone the average schmuck.
I partially grew up 6 blocks from Bromley Heath, and it was a place you stayed away from. One time my school sent me to a clinic located there, and of course, I was promptly jumped, robbed and beaten up.
Housing projects bring down any neighborhood they're located in,are magnates for street crime and violent criminal activity. In my going on half a century on this earth, this has always been the case. Yet we continue to play the same game, assuming different results can be achieved if we just dump more $ and potted plants/green space into the equation. No it won't. To use a tired cliche, you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
Growing up, old people told me they were actually nice and desirable places to live just after WW2 and the Korean war. That didn't last. By the mid to late 60s, most became hell holes full of ultra violent, dysfunctional tenants, mostly single mothers, grandmothers, and their kids, all on the dole. Instead of changing bad behavior, and encouraging responsibility and good behavior, they enable the bad behavior. Now we have many generations to whom living that 'lifestyle' is considered acceptable. Good luck changing that attitude. I believe tough love is long overdue.
I remember going to Old
I remember going to Old Colony when I was a kid to visit a great Aunt. She lived there for as long as I knew her.
It was a nice place, well her apartment was very nice. Although I admit it was the first time I saw someone passed out on a door step. I was very young but I remember my father admonishing me for staring.
I had the sense even then, that the place wasn't as nice as it used to be. Graffiti started appearing on walls, etc.. More and more people hanging around in hallways.
No
No.
What's funny is that your bar for being able to speak on this topic is apparently "watching a TV show once", while I need either a degree in the topic, or need to concisely explain the reasons high-density housing in urban environs is not always bad. Mind you, you haven't given any reasons why it's not good, but that's none of my business.
Let's get back on topic, though: all I said is I found it silly that watching a TV show is expertise. That's slightly above staying at a Holiday Inn Express as reasoning.
Watching a TV show is expertise?
That's your stance, not mine.
inference
I'm not sure what else I could have inferred from what you said. You said projects don't work, and asked if anyone else saw a show where they were a focal point. By all means, I apologize if that is not what you were going for.
Show Me a Hero was, for the record
a wonderful series. Short, less sexy than The Wire, but brilliant. And honestly I'm not remotely sure what it has to do with a shooting in Bromley Heath.
Projects are
Fundamentally flawed in the design. typical design layouts which incorporate elements of prison planning and undercurrent layouts implying economic and social inferiority of the residents increase instances of aggressive behavior as a lashing out against that which impliedly is restricting them.
interesting! could you
interesting! could you elaborate, or do you have any articles about this? I could see how living in a place designed like a prison would cause psych issues, but how are projects specifically built that way? I always assumed they were just designed like any other apartment building of a similar height.
The innocence of youth or the ignorance of the uneducated?
Willy boy - have you ever heard of the admonition: "Stop leading with your chin?"
Thanks Adam for not censoring this story
Every other media outlet reporting this story have eliminated telling the public this murder happened at a public housing project.
How can people support fixes to public housing when they are kept from knowing the severity of the problems?
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This was my dad!!
This was my Father!! Lord knows he didnt deserve this!!! God rest his soul...I love you daddy!!