Car full of road ragers sought for stomping Navy vet studying at BU

By adamg on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 7:50am

Boston Police report they are looking for three men who got out of a car in Audubon Circle around 2:50 a.m. Saturday to pummel a BU student who objected to them trying to run him down as he crossed the street.

"The victim stated the suspects assaulted him by punching and kicking him," police say, adding he was taken to Brigham and Women's in critical condition. Police say they are looking for three black men in a dark-colored sedan.

The Herald interviewed the man, an 8-year Navy vet now a political-science undergrad at BU.

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Hope they get the bastards

By gotdatwmd on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 9:07am.

Hope they get the bastards that did this.

Kinda want the sailor's Jordan Marsh tee.

Blah

By anon on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 10:09am.

Too bad he didn't have a gun, $1.50 worth of ammo at $0.50 per round would have saved the state at least $150,000 a year (food stamps, welfare, section 8, medicare, etc) going forward.

PS: does potus have anything to say about this, or does he only comment when it's black on white?

Gun nut laments the lack of

By anon on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 10:23am.

Gun nut laments the lack of murder, makes unfounded racist assumptions. zzzzzzzzz

How is it a racist assumption?

By Will LaTulippe on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:19pm.

Somebody under 30 driving a Mercedes? GTFOOH! I would absolutely guess that somebody has that car because their other expenses are subsidized by the Commonwealth of Assachusetts. And I wouldn't be surprised if a white person owned that car under those circumstances.

Please read the whole rant

By SwirlyGrrl on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:27pm.

PS: does potus have anything to say about this, or does he only comment when it's black on white?

Sometimes black people are on welfare and own luxury vehicles

By Will LaTulippe on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:29pm.

I have no tangible proof, but I would wager there's at least one.

Soeaking of course from your years

By Brian Riccio on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:38pm.

living and working in the black communities of Vermont, right,Will?

Yeah, because kids choose where they grow up

By Will LaTulippe on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:50pm.

For a smart and cool guy, you talk out of your ass a lot.

Thanks and that may be true, but

By Brian Riccio on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 5:05pm.

you, on the other hand seems to have mastered typing with your ass.

What's a matter, Will...

By whyaduck on Tue, 09/10/2013 - 4:10pm.

do you pine for a luxury vehicle?

Your comment is going to be popular...

By RhoninFire on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 10:24am.

I don't expect to agree with all the other commentators counterpoints, but I do want to point out that guns on university campus doesn't sound desirable and guns inside dorms (he lives in the dorms) is against policies for understandable reasons.

I respectfully disagree.The

By PeterGriffith5 on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 12:18pm.

I do want to point out that guns on university campus doesn't sound desirable and guns inside dorms (he lives in the dorms) is against policies for understandable reasons.

I respectfully disagree.

The young scholars at BU regularly show themselves to be sober, responsible citizens who I am sure would handle firearms responsibly.

Glad that you pointed out the

By PeterGriffith5 on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 12:20pm.

Too bad he didn't have a gun, $1.50 worth of ammo at $0.50 per round would have saved the state at least $150,000 a year (food stamps, welfare, section 8, medicare, etc) going forward.

PS: does potus have anything to say about this, or does he only comment when it's black on white?

Thanks for your valuable contribution to the conversation. Glad that you pointed out the subtle connection between POTUS and the thugs who assaulted this young man.

Many of us would not have picked up on this relationship.

Admittedly I am not as savvy as the anon author of this post and failed to see the how acting as judge, juror and executioner would save the Commonwealth at least $150,000 a year?

Perhaps you could point me in the right direction?

Self Defense

By anon on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 12:46pm.

Regardless of your feelings about guns, this guy had every right to defend himself with deadly force. He was being attacked by three men in the middle of the street for no reason and based on the description of his injuries, they came very close to killing him.

The idea that defending himself with a firearm would be "acting as judge, juror and executioner" is incorrect here. These guys weren't running down the street with his TV. They were attempting to maim or kill him. If they got shot, they had it coming.

You're half cocked

By Kaz on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 1:19pm.

We have one story here, Rashomon. What if the guy was jaywalking and stopped in front of their car because he didn't like the way they were approaching him. Then he dented the hood to prove his point when they started telling him to get out of the way. Then when the first of them got out of the car to yell about the dent in the hood, he belted them in the face while calling them racial epithets?

Does he get to shoot them when they retaliate and escalate the situation?

I'm not suggesting this is the actual way it went down at all. However, we have zero facts from sources other than the victim and some witnesses whose statements we don't have but are summarized as "saw him being attacked by suspects who fled".

So, calling for their deaths is a tad premature since we have no idea the composure of the victim or the proximate causes to the fighting.

Guilty until proven innocent

By gotdatwmd on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 2:21pm.

Guilty until proven innocent works for victims too now? Noice. Hell, why bother even taking his statement and hearing his side of the story until they catch the dudes who fled since his story can't be trusted!!!

Full cocked

By Kaz on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:37pm.

If what you took away from my post is that I was victim blaming, then you need to search out a remedial reading program.

What part of "I'm not suggesting this is the actual way it went down at all" suggests that I am accusing the victim of being guilty until proven innocent.

I know it's probably more nuance than your "Fire! BAD!" life is used to handling but try this on for size: People lie when the facts would frame them in a bad light. People tell the truth when they are wronged in order to get justice for the crime committed against them. You can't tell the difference by only asking one party to the crime. Sometimes you can't tell the difference after speaking to two parties. Two parties and direct witnesses might get you there. Clear recorded evidence containing full context of the situation can also help.

Now, how much have we been presented with for people commenting here to be justified in wishing the victim had a gun and used it?

Of course, guns are never turned on their owners

By SwirlyGrrl on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:30pm.

Do you really think that a person being attacked by a group (not just mouthed off at, not just menaced, but being actually beaten) is going to be able to get enough accurate shots off with a hand gun before the load runs out to subdue the throng?

Or is he more likely to have his weapon taken away from him and used against him?

If you think it is the former and not the latter, you watch too many action movies and are highly unlikely to have ever been in the military or otherwise properly trained with weapons.

Go full bore

By Kaz on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 4:44pm.

What if the three guys that only delivered a beating were also strapped? I mean, everyone should have a gun in case they're wronged, right? So, now our victim has a gun to defend himself in the case he's ever jumped by 3 guys. The 3 guys each have guns in case they are ever shot upon. The witnesses are all carrying their handguns in case they're every approached.

The victim pulls his gun as soon as they start hiting him and fires at the 3 guys because they start attacking him. They pull out their guns and return fire. A witness misses the beginning of the altercation and sees the victim pull his gun and start firing. The witness pulls his gun to defend the three guys by shooting at the shooter, nee victim. A witness further up the street just sees the witness that is firing his gun at the 3 guys and opens up fire on the shooter, nee witness.

Hopefully a few blocks away there's less foot traffic and this whole thing doesn't daisy chain until all but one of us are dead...but at least we went down shooting in order to save our lives and those of the people around us being shot at by some crazed psycho we saw firing at another person.

Hey - I saw that on Breaking Bad last night ...

By SwirlyGrrl on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 5:56pm.

Meanwhile, wingnut wet dream George Zimmerman is back in jail after allegedly threatening his estranged wife and her father with his gun.

Because there apparently aren't any problems a gun can't solve.

Sigh.

Zimmerman is back in jail? Really?

By Will LaTulippe on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 5:57pm.

Maybe he'll get a jail time makeup call like O.J. got.

No. Not really.

By anon on Mon, 09/09/2013 - 11:28pm.

He was released without charges when his wife and father-in-law declined to press charges or give police a sworn statement. The police found that Zimmerman did not have a gun on him at the time.

GUNZ ARE BAD MMMMKAAAAYYYYYY

By anon on Tue, 09/10/2013 - 9:49am.

Outnumbered? Old and Frail? Minding your own business?

Take your beating and hope for the best because there is no way a gun can ever possibly stop or prevent an assault. It's totally useless and can only lead to bad things happening. You're a bad person if you own a gun.

Um,

By whyaduck on Tue, 09/10/2013 - 3:58pm.

I think he is speaking about anon "acting as judge, juror and executioner", not the guy who almost got hit.

PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS

By The Truth on Thu, 09/12/2013 - 3:10pm.

PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT:

Michael Stinnett was drunk that night, kicked and punch the car door at the red light in return one man got out of the car and confronted him. The other two just watched the confrontation. Witness reported.

Yes get you facts straight

By Da trufff on Sat, 10/25/2014 - 3:14pm.

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Car full of road ragers sought for stomping Navy vet studying at BU

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