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Why are gays the scapegoat of bad straight marriages?
Boycott Maine period; which is pretty much what I do with most of the rest of the US. Protecting the freedoms of people, all people, should never be a question of popular vote. Democracy doesn't work because the majority always get's their way. That's actually a tyranny. Think of all those "elections" you had back in high school. Class president, student government, prom king and queen. Not much more goes into our decision-making on issues like this.
No one can actually say how equal marriage hurts families. They just know they don't like gay people. They don't know how to help American families, which are suffering more than ever, and are divorcing more than ever. Oh, it must be the gays! Actually money seems to be the number one reason. My spouse is gay doesn't statistically register.
Americans in so many places continue to show their ugliest sides to society and the world. Plus they show they're astonishing lack of intelligence. Scapegoating gays because they can't manage their own marriages.
Maine, doesn't disappointed me. It tells me that people deserve what they get. They deserve a crumbling economy and the unhappiness they have sown. I have no sympathy on those who vote to hate; none!
Yep, lets boycott the
Yep, lets boycott the product of hard working fisherman because a majority of people in the state have a different opinion than you. Makes sense.
That was my perhaps-too flippant headline
I haven't read about anybody threatening to boycott lobsters (I almost wrote "potatoes" instead, but then you might have to buy Idaho potatoes and I'm thinking Idaho is even worse than Maine when it comes to marriage issues).
I think the point about
I think the point about boycotting lobsters is supposed to relate to the fact that, according to Leviticus, shellfish is an abomination just like homosexuality.
bravo, BR
Nice!
Leviticus and shellfish
If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely get crabs.
For the Win!
Consider as well that homobigot Linda Bean has been taking over the entire distribution chain.
Ayup
If it wasn't these "hard-working fishermen" who voted Yes on Question 1, then it was their neighbors and they should have pushed harder for their neighbors to better appreciate civil liberty.
I say boycott any product of Maine you can find, from blueberries to LL Bean. If they want to have a part of *my* dollar, then they had better learn to be more tolerant of everyone when asked. If they *are* more tolerant, then they should have figured out how to get more people to vote.
Who is the one being
Who is the one being intolerant. These people have an opinion that should be respected. You are a typical liberal who thinks you are tolerant yet intolerant of any with different view points.
Opinion
Opinions are great, even opposing opinions, but Human rights are not up for a vote, are we going back to slavery if enough vote yes...the constitution gives you the right to say you don't like it, but it doesn't give you the right to take away another persons rights... that's tyranny
Not only that. We shouldn't
Not only that. We shouldn't be tolerant of those who would practice intolerance.
They have a right to their opinion, but they shouldn't be allowed to exercise them on anyone else. They have rights, but those rights don't allow them to supersede others rights.
Maybe you should read our "Librul" constitution before you go and how hum about someone being intolerant of viewpoints. You can not like gays, you can speak out about gays, but legislating away inalienable rights isn't a very conservative position.
Not that the GOP has ever been on the "right" (conservative) side of these issues.
It's not a matter of tolerance of the intolerant....
...it's a matter of whether we should be tolerant of someone who is continuing to cause us harm.
It's like being tolerant of a rapist, or offering forgiveness to a rapist.
The possibility for any such forgiveness begins the moment the person doing harm stops doing that harm, and agrees to not do that harm again.
Not a moment before.
(In contrast, I'm perfectly happy to be tolerant of people who hate me and do nothing to harm me as a result.)
Amen Craig G
Amen Craig G
Correct, anon. They are
Correct, anon. They are tolerant only of those that think like them.
How about putting a referendum question on the ballot in Mass., and if gay marriage is repealed, they can boycott all things in Mass. as well.
Church and State Prove that
Church and State
Prove that homosexual marriage affects your life or the lives of those who engage in it in a negative fashion without citing religion.
I thought religious people were supposed to push people to get married.
Twitter me this!
Hey, "religious" doesn't always mean "nutty right-winger"
I'm quite religious, thanks, and I think that anyone who wants to get married should do so, and people who don't want to get married should not feel pressure to do so, and their choice to have romantic relationships or not should be valid and celebrated just the same.
"Religious" doesn't mean the same thing as "Christian who takes the Christian Bible literally and thinks that others need to do the same."
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Respect
I respect their opinion as much as I respect the KKK's opinion. Unless you think lynching and ridding your neighborhood of black people are appropriate, Mr. Anon (not verified)? No? Well, then according to your line of thinking, you're being "intolerant of a an opinion that should be respected".
Two consenting adults should be allowed to marry in the state of Maine or anywhere else. The idea that they have to be of different sex is not rooted in anything other than bigotry. You are correct to label me as intolerant of bigotry.
Boycott LL Bean?
The madness!
Oh, wait, LL Bean sucks, never mind.
Boycott L. L. Bean?
Already been done.
That's great but...
Does that mean you're also going to boycott the other 31 states that voted against gay marriage? I say all the gays can come to MA, bring their talent and creativity and money, and make MA the greatest state. Extend the invitation!
Karen Zgoda
http://www.karenzgoda.org
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Time for an advertising campaign
Bring those Ikea guys back.
"Once we got the table back home, we realized that our neighbors don't value our commitment and our contribution to the community. So we're packing up our table and moving to Massachusetts. We'll get another leaf in Stoughton."
Boycott Maine reasoning
Human rights are not a votable issue, and if you put your head in the sand then you are complict with the violation...Mark my words the conservative christian fanatics in this country are trying to turn back the clock, Women and blacks are next...
Holy crap take the tin foil
Holy crap take the tin foil hat off. Gay marriage is not a human rights issue. It is very disingenuous to even mention it as such when compared to real human rights issue like Sudan, women in the Arab world, etc.
And again, the Christians are "fanatics" for their beleifs? I am guessing that most of the people in the 31 out of 31 states that have voted on gay marriage arent faundamentalist Christians or even have an issue with homosexuals.
Gay marriage is a human right issue
Gay marriage is a human right issue, and it's not all about the ceremony with two people of the same sex standing up in front of family and friends. It's about all the countless rights that are automatically given to a married couple which gay couples will never get. Even those gay couples married here in Mass still are not provided the same treatment as straight couples for any federal issues. And to those that say, well let them have domestic partnerships... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK1zA5Uqgzg
As a gay man, I really don't want the right to marry. I want the right to live the same way that my parents did, in a loving relationship that was recognized.
Umm, yes it is.
Nobody made the comparisons to the Sudan but you. Don't derail.
Now same-sex marriage bans provably do harm: http://www.emory.edu/home/news/releases/2009/06/st...
But that's not the point.
Human rights are defined as "basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled."
Equal protection under the law is a basic right to which all humans are entitled.
LGBT Americans don't have it in part because of bans on civil marriage.
Thus: Same-sex marriage is, by traditional definition, a human right.
QED.
While the boycott isn't
While the boycott isn't nice, neither are the people of Maine. You reap what you sow. You must be white, you don't know what it's like to be a minority. Just like the people in Maine!
Maine boycott makes no sense
Grow up, people. You're acting as if every person in Maine is against gay marriages, where in reality, it was simply more than half of the people that actually voted were against it. That leaves a lot of people that didn't even vote, plus the people that voted for it. There's still a lot of people in VT and MA against gay marriage, and I don't see any boycotts against them.
There's still a lot of
I think we have a defacto boycott with these people, they become irrelevant and nobody talks to them. I do not know a single person in my life who is against gay marriage in MA or at least advertises the fact. When I am in a room and someone makes it known they are against gay marriage it is like someone sucked the air right out of the room. Nobody yells at them but I know people start avoiding "boycotting" that person.
Twitter me this!
I'm boycotting dry humor and
I'm boycotting dry humor and green-head flies.
Enlightenment?
Sorry, Maine, but'cha can't git th're from heahr...
Reannexation
See, if everyone had supported my drive to reannex Maine, you all could have spent your valuable time devising solutions for the T.
That is, of course, a lame attempt to inject some lightheartedness. Things like this will continue to happen so long as wealthy out of state interests can support such campaigns, and federal government keeps saying, "well, you know, DOMA is the law..."
Solutions for the T
But don't you know? Gay marriages have crippling effects on public transportation! Just as the unholy vibes can damage heterosexual marriages by proximity, they can also cause switching problems on the Worcester/Framingham line.
Contagious
The trains don't couple straight anymore.
...and don't forget...
...slippery tracks!
Calming Questions?
Has anything like this ever stood up to judicial review? Might we not expect that the courts will rule it unconstitutional and all will be as it was?
Seriously. I'm certainly no legal scholar, and I obviously haven't done the research to answer my questions, but I can't think of a case of a "one man - one woman" marriage vote that has persisted when scrutinized by a judge. Am I missing one?
Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com
(Whose uncle is gay, lives in Maine with his partner of some 40+ years, and is heartbroken this morning.)
Which courts - state or
Which courts - state or national? Gay marriage advocates are scared shitless of this going to the US Supreme court for fear that they'll lose. Why do you think they haven't already filed suits? Once precedence is set, it would be much harder to get it changed later than just waiting and trying later with a more agreeable court.
Actually, we have filed suit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_v._Schwarzenegger
Yes, some gay advocates are frightened of a bad precedent. I think that's fair.
But nonetheless, there is a lawsuit, it's serious, and the district court trial begins on January 11.
What about the gay lobstermen?
Huh?
Lobster Hoax
For those who are NOT boycotting lobsters in spite of the Maine election result, I'd like to bring to your attention a widespread hoax occurring in restaurants everywhere: if the menu says "TWIN LOBSTERS", don't believe it! I've had lobsters that not only WEREN'T twins, but weren't even related.
They should move to
They should move to Massachusetts. We have plenty of lobsters in the bay.
Maine lobsters? Did you know
Maine lobsters?
Did you know that most "Maine lobsters"are actually Nova Scotia lobsters resold as "Maine"?
The NS waters are colder and produce a sweeter and more full lobster...
So why punish the Canucks too?
It is funny that...
It is funny that those prone to bigotry and hatred (as many who have posted here demonstrate) are so upset by the idea that private people would make a private choice to spend their private money a certain way.
They ask. Why punish hard-working folk (for hatred). They say, why don't you respect personal choices or opinions. Who owns what though? I worked for my money. Don't criticize me because I choose to spend that money in a way that doesn't support people who HATE me. I respect their opinion, I just don't think it should be law! Religion, which is what people hide behind on this decision is divided. Many churches and temples recognize equal marriage. Many don't. But heck, Catholic churches don't recognize divorce. The lesson here is let church be church and state be state.
As to those who complain of liberals being intolerant. It's my money. I earned it. I think I DO HAVE A RIGHT to spend it however I want. Just don't complain about gays breaking up your darned marriages when your ridiculous debt or lifestyle is what's causing your divorce. Gays getting married and adopting children that would be wards of the state (or could have been aborted) is not Satan's work.
There was a time when the women, the poor and the colored couldn't vote or marry freely in this country. No one would suggest that we take these rights back now. After this history couldn't we agree the idea of taking away rights is a bad idea? Gays getting married does NO HARM and is simply a scapegoat for those not big enough, not man (or woman) enough to own up to their own default and certainly not in touch with their own faith! Such opinions do not merit respect for they are not opinions. They are only hatred!