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Massive brawl shuts Revere Beach
By adamg on Sun, 05/10/2015 - 8:41pm
Stanley Staco reports a bench-clearing, bottle-throwing brawl involving up to 200 people at the Revere Beach bandstand brought police from Revere, Lynn, Chelsea and Boston racing in to break things up, along with Transit and State Police.
NECN reports the brawl started when two women got into a fight, their boyfriends joined in and then pretty much everybody around them decided, what the hell, why not, and started throwing punches and tossing bottles.
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Damn hooligans ruining the
Damn hooligans ruining the first beach day of the year.
All those Boston High School kids
Cutting school and invading Revere.
Again--jousting at KKK-shaped
Again--jousting at KKK-shaped straw men. No one is going to even begin to claim that "Boston school kids" are causing trouble in Revere. Revere and the surrounding towns have their own problems with troublemakers from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds who will surely do their own "well, he started it!" blame game. They don't need to go pointing fingers elsewhere.
I believe that was a joke
And refers to past incidents at Revere Beach in which Boston students were blamed for causing all kinds of trouble.
If so then absolutely withdrawn.
I may be reading too much given the context of another very unpleasant thread. I don't remember ever hearing that.
Seriously? It's a constant news trope the last few years.
A quick google of news "revere beach student riot"
From 2009, an exceptionally calm and neutral WBUR story about a day when thousands of teens from all over the area crowded to Revere Beach. Although it turned out there were no significant violent events, much of the press breathlessly reported 'riots' among 'thousands of teens'. Lots of public garumphery from all quarters.
Like this Herald story on subsequent calls from a Revere pol to put metal detectors at the beach's T stop to catch the 'riffraff'. Many other commentors pointed at Boston teens specifically even though it appears that little/no evidence of a particular Boston presense was ever produced.
From a couple years later - a 2011 UHub story on massive State police presence at mere rumor of student skip day invasion of Revere Beach.
And again - the following year, a WCVB story on state police massing for "Hordes Of Students".
Adam's take on things shortly after that embarrassing overreaction.
Seriously.
These are from like 2011! I can't read everything. :) And Revere Beach isn't really on my radar much. The general drift still seems to be people concerned about huge groups of kids making trouble--both local kids and potentially kids from Boston. No doubt there's some racial fearmongering going on but its not like some rumor that 400 kids from the Burke are invading Wellesley--this is a real thing that communities and cops have to deal with. Summer's here, the testosterone is flowing...
All BPS kids are black
Duly noted. I wouldn't have known that from the comment you overreacted to.
Maybe you only see black kids and assume "BPS" means "black" because you are so afraid of them? You should talk to a professional about that.
Maybe you should slow the hell down
and read and comprehend before you post. I'll try to explain it slowly. Yes-- "Boston high school kids" is very likely code for "black teenagers." It sounds as if there was definitely some of this "outsiders coming in and starting trouble"/ scary "Boston" i.e. black kids coming out to the burbs thing going on--that's what I meant when I wrote "fearmongering." though as I pointed out, Revere is not Wellesley. Get it? How you twist this to infer that I personally am afraid of black people is beyond me. And btw, yes--the BPS is by far majority black and Hispanic, especially when you factor out the exam schools which skew heavily white and Asian.
Honestly--the light-speed leaping to accuse posters of being secret racists is becoming epidemic here. And I know that Adam does have to flag a lot of serious racist crap but the constant nasty, baseless finger pointing is frankly creepy and kind of witch-hunty.
Secret?
You've made no secret of your racism. Anyone who reads about an incident and, absent ANY evidence either way, asserts loudly and repeatedly that it must be black kids is not being the least bit secretive.
http://www.universalhub.com/2015/if-youre-going-steal-booze-liquor-store...
Not sure how you could get any more overt.
I don't really know what else to say
Except for this: Go f*** yourself. Since we've both been posting on here for a long time, often on the same side of an argument, I expected more than this BS from you and especially over a stupid thread about teenagers stealing booze.
Yeah--I'm a big, fat racist because I assume that a bunch of middle-schoolers busted on the 66 en route to Dudley are black. The same way I assume that if there's a post about drunken a**holes acting up on the train to Braintree that they're not. Brawlers in Revere? I have no idea--not an area I know well. Unlike you with your disingenuous scrabbling around "oh maybe they were Russian!!" crap, I actually live in the city, not in a virtually all-white suburb. I have a lot of black neighbors and friends. I'm actually pretty comfortable being the only white person on the bus. And I don't sit in my all-white workplace or lily-white Medford and call people racists because they make a common-sense observation. Honestly? "Overt racist?" Maybe by your definition. But yours is the kind of shifty, dishonest racism that makes a lot of black people distrust so-called liberals. You'll spend all day preaching and name-calling on the Internet but send your kids to a school with some kids with a little extra melatonin? Not a chance in hell.
Adam--apologies in advance. Feel free to delete. I may need to just step away for a while.
Lily-white Medford?
I'm not going to wade into most of this argument, except to point out that Medford has had an African-American community for centuries. Visit West Medford Open Studios this weekend if you don't believe me.
I am going to need more
Popcorn!
Seriously.
These are from like 2011! I can't read everything. :) And Revere Beach isn't really on my radar much. The general drift still seems to be people concerned about huge groups of kids making trouble--both local kids and potentially kids from Boston. No doubt there's some racial fearmongering going on but its not like some rumor that 400 kids from the Burke are invading Wellesley--this is a real thing that communities and cops have to deal with. Summer's here, the testosterone is flowing...
March 2012?
MARCH 2012?? Damn. this year folks were still shoveling...
Well
Its starting to look like the parties involved are in fact from............BOSTON!
Hooligans, not thugs
Good thing you called them hooligans - thugs is now banned on this site to refer to ruffians, hoodlums and other no-good-nicks.
For the record, mr moderator, I have no idea what race(s) were present, although I would venture to guess that just about every race was involved in a 200 person brawl on revere beach. I'd also say this is thug-like behavior.
Hooligans is a slurr at the
Hooligans is a slurr at the Scottish and Irish by the bloody Tories. That sorry lot is a bunch of wankers!
What is happening at Revere
What is happening at Revere Beach , the State gets millions of dollars to reconstruct its sidewalks wall repair new sand new condo construction new everything at Revere beach. Now people from the area have to put up with this .
I guess the demographics have changed. 30 years ago there were muscle heads with names like Vinny, Guido, Joey hanging on the wall at Revere beach with their Pontiac Trans Am's parked on the boulavard. Revere has cheaper rents than parts of Boston, this attracts the mischievous person. How to prevent brawls from happening on Revere beach, solution: Revere should charge a $10 fee to enter Revere beach, also a Revere residential sticker should be required to park close to the beach, it keeps away unwanted visitors.
My Beach, Not Revere's Beach
1. Lovely Stereotyping. How is that Jersey Shore Complete Series DVD collection going for you?
2. Revere Beach is State Property. Which means it is my beach even if I live in Greenfield I can go on it. You cannot be charged a fee to enter. This isn't Singing Beach in Moneychester-By-The-Sea. The roads along the beach are state property as well, not owned by the corruption magnet known as the City of Revere. The State Police has primary jurisdiction over the beach, not RPD.
3. Thanks for your opinion. Please come back with facts next time.
Well, Mr Charlie Baker should
Well, Mr Charlie Baker should change the law fast, or the law should be changed seasonal during summer months.
Because this will happen again and again until a cop gets hurt or even killed by these animals.
Baker has the power to keep the public and this crowded public beach as safe as possible, he should use creative ways to keep street fighting gangs off this beach, one way is to charge a $10 fee to thwart off the Animals, money will go towards local community youth violence programs. I think this story made national news by the way, huffington post.
Vacationers from around the country and World visiting Boston will avoid Revere beach, and that can hurt the local economy.
Any news on the condition of a 23 year old exchange student attacked by Animals on the common, hit on the side of his head by a punch.
Animals
Only someone who's never seen Revere Beach ...
... could make such a ridiculous suggestion.
Revere Beach is several miles of sandy strip sandwiched between a public street and the ocean.
There are no gates. There is no fence. There's a wall in places, but it's there to keep the tide in, not the people out.
Singing Beach in Manchester-by-the-Sea has only one way in and out, so it's feasible to charge admission there.
Revere is sanwiched between 2
Revere is sanwiched between 2 shitholes Lynn and Everett, no wonder why ..
Vacationers
From around the world visit revere beach?
Yeah, their absence will be sorely missed.
Both of them.
10 dollar charge to keep the unwanted away?
Have u looked at the sneakers, clothes and cell phones these kids own? They throw 10 dollars Around as if it is pennies. The truth in the matte is, alcohol, fake tough guys and gals will appear anywhere and everywhere, let's just hope that the police department can handle these situations along with the community residents
I totally agree. And I think
I totally agree. And I think this principle should be extended to other state roads, which would mean the removal of the resident permit restrictions on Park Drive, etc in Boston.
And even though the town owns the parking lot at Singing Beach, that one's particularly insidious. You're only allowed to drive there if you live within walking or biking distance.
It's their beach and parking lot
It's their beach and their parking lot paid for by their taxes. That's like requiring that you be able to use their school system.
Don't just pick on Manchester. Every coastal town has the same scenario. Towns with lakes have the same thing. Residents only.
Singing Beach is accessible to anyone
It's parking at Singing Beach that is resident only. I sometimes go there via commuter rail (used to do it a lot more before the fares got so expensive). The walk is only about 15 minutes and is quite a lovely part of the experience. Probably the loveliest beach that is easily accessible for the carless amongst us.
You still have to pay to walk into Singing Beach
At least I did, the last time I visited, a few years ago.
If the state paid millions of dollars...
...why should the beach be for residents only?
I heard the sirens
I heard the sirens here in East Boston. Seemingly endless. The first hot day and look what happens. I wonder what caused it?
Several things
1) Isolation within densely populated communities and neighborhoods. Familiarity breeds contempt.
2) A lack of education. Hell, not even that: A lack of a desire to learn anything.
3) Possible un(der)employment.
4) Few or no hobbies, perhaps because of a lack of disposable income with which to pursue them.
5) The inability to reason that most grievances are not grounds to initiate a fistfight (or worse) with a foe.
Well, more specifically ...
Just updated my original post with a link to an NECN report: Basically, two women got into it, their boyfriends joined in, then everybody else decided it was a nice day for a brawl.
Okay
6) The low self-esteem of women. Encourage your daughters to have fulfilling lives that don't lead to fights on the beach about a man or other stupid (expletive), y'all.
Such stirring commentary on the low self esteem
of women coming from a guy who hangs around in bars cajoling people into guessing how many members of the Partridge Family there were.
I ask better questions than that
And what does one have to do with the other, you obnoxious old fart?
"obnoxious old fart"!
Finally you write something that makes sense.
I didn't know he was old
I didn't know dvdoff was old (ba-da-bing...)
I'm 53! Is that old?
However,I don't look anywhere like my age. I've successfully avoided achieving that hang dog/scruffy chin pube look that one gets when spending entirety too much time in bars.
Better things for women to do
Like stay home and watch Real Housewives of xyz catfight, women on Lifetime get stalked, or women on the Bachelor scheme against each other!
Is this what you think we all do?
When, you know, not baking pies, drumming up false rape charges, and getting our nails done.
whole lotta mansplainin
n/t
Will, we need more of you. I
Will, we need more of you. I don't want these kids being my future.
You forgot one
I know I'm making a bit of an assumption here, but I'm going to guess that at least one of the primary causes was, just maybe, alcohol.
It's going out on a limb, of course. I'm sure the crowd at Revere Beach would never over-consume on a hot day; they would realize the dangers inherent in dehydration and possible heat stroke.
Mom Beef
Mimosa-fueled riots.
If mom is named Kelly, that is
What!?
What did I do now?
Happy Mother's Day!!
Happy Mother's Day!!
Waves of immigration generations ago. At what point in Boston?
a) Generations ago during waves of immigration at what point in Boston did passengers go ashore from ships?...
b) At what location were immigrants processed?... c) anything here like Ellis Island?
We could have a Wall of Honor too
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/about-the-wall-of-honor
My mother as a child and her
My mother as a child and her family came in through Providence from Italy. Don't know if there was ever a processing point closer to Boston.
I think Fall River? Maybe?
i know my grandfather washed ashore somewhere in Massachusetts.
East Boston Immigration Station
There was an immigration station in East Boston, now demolished
http://www.boston.com/yourtown/boston/eastboston/gallery/east_boston_imm...
Not quite
The East Boston Station became useless about the time it opened in 1919. Unfortunately, with the laws restricting immigration in 1923, immigrants only trickled in afterwards. It really doesn't compare to Ellis Island or Angel Island except for purpose.
Before 1919, immigrants and nonimmigrants would go ashore in the same place, which was wherever the docks were for the line. The immigrants were examined while on the ships before docking, just like the cargo being transported.
Little known fact. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts began examining immigrants decades before the Federal Government did. Xenophobia was strong in these parts.
You can find records like
You can find records like this one (from 114 years ago today) for just about any date you care to search for in the late 19th and early 20th century. Seems like immigrants were coming ashore at pretty much any berth a ship tied up at, and they were processed by the Commissioner of Immigration.
South Boston too.
One of the buildings on the waterfront (roughly between the courthouse and the Fish Pier, damned if I can come up with the name) was a major processing/ entry point, I think mainly in the late 19th into the 20th century.
Blue Line Brawls
A CSA at Wonderland told me that for the past few weeks hooligans have been smashing out windows on all Rapid Transit Lines.
Yeah
Had the scanner going last night and TPD got a call for smashed windows on a blue line train at Wood Island.
I'll timed.
Apparently it wasn't the best time and place to tell a "yo mama" joke.
THEY CAME FROM THE 'T'
The latest in Code Words to describe teenagers from Boston by state police spokesman
I have a question about the
I have a question about the aftermath of this. Once multiple agencies corral several hundred rowdy teens into the T, do they brush themselves off and congratulate each other? Or do they go down the line helping the Transit police with their newfound mess?
I don't know, but...
...maybe you can ask security at Fenway Park, or any bar anywhere. They dust their hands and say "not my problem" once they've moved the rowdies out of their premises, why should "multiple agencies" deal with it any differently? What would you propose they do, exactly?
Rephrase your question to get
Rephrase your question to get an answer:
Once multiple agencies corral several billion dollars of debt into the T, do they brush themselves off and congratulate each other? Or do they go down the line helping the T with their newfound mess?
OT FOR BEACH PATROL
The troopers should thank these troublesome teens for all the overtime they will getting to repel these teens from Revere, next stop Carson Beach !
it's just the latest fad in
it's just the latest fad in exercise