But it's never a good idea to start off a review by advertising your "credentials". You lived in Brooklyn ten years ago? Great, but as five minutes scrolling through any random set of Yelp reviews will tell you, most people know sweet FA about pick-your-cuisine-or-foodstuff, regardless of where they're from. How to write better food reviews, courtesy of yours truly.
Cool Link. I guess this is why my reviews get so many "Cool" and "Useful" comments. I've never understood why people leave 2 line reviews. Write more dammit or don't write anything at all. People need to elaborate more..
The article puts front and center a pet peeve of mine.
NY bagels are good (allegedly) because of the water (which, as the author notes, comes from reservoirs upstate).
The store owner then goes on to confound this principle by talking about people going "home to Long Island" and bringing back bagels to freeze.
Here's the thing: most or all of the water in Long Island (using the definition that most people use, i.e., Nassau and Suffolk Counties) does not come from upstate. It comes from ground water aquifers under said island which have little in common geologically (and accordingly, taste-wise) with the water collected in the upstate reservoirs and fed into the NYC system.
Now I realize that people going to LI could be driving to NYC for the bagels, but I think that this is unlikely (I have lots of experience with that drive - if you are going to LI, you avoid as much as NYC as you possibly can). Further, and irrespective of the foregoing, lots of people seem to lump Long Island-made bagels in with NYC-made bagels as being either the same or substantially the same anyway. If this is the case (and for the record, I think the bagels in both locations are very nice), I just don't see how it can be the water.
Incidentally, the same applies to pizza (and, in particular, the crust).
...bagel conversation falls to the "No True Scotsman" fallacy almost immediately. "A TRUE NY bagel is... blah blah blah." It just never fails. I'm beginning to the think the NY bagel is more of a Platonic Idea than it is a real, tangible, edible thing. Perfect as it is conceptualized, always imperfect in the actuality of its physical iteration.
But, seriously, keep your cucumbers off of my lox/schmear.
friends who are longtime NYC residents; they have long complained that the number of decent bagel places has been shrinking steadily for 40 years, and today it's really hard to find a decent one.
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Those bagels may indeed by terrific -- I haven't tried them.
But it's never a good idea to start off a review by advertising your "credentials". You lived in Brooklyn ten years ago? Great, but as five minutes scrolling through any random set of Yelp reviews will tell you, most people know sweet FA about pick-your-cuisine-or-foodstuff, regardless of where they're from. How to write better food reviews, courtesy of yours truly.
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South Park on Yelpers nailed it. Looks like you were ahead of your time with that post from 2013.
I loved that South Park episode,
but it was more about the delusions of grandeur, unmerited self-entitlement, and extortionist tendencies of some Yelpers.
Cool Link
Cool Link. I guess this is why my reviews get so many "Cool" and "Useful" comments. I've never understood why people leave 2 line reviews. Write more dammit or don't write anything at all. People need to elaborate more..
Credentials?
This author cannot be trusted to evaluate food.
Maybe it's the water, but I don't think so.
The article puts front and center a pet peeve of mine.
NY bagels are good (allegedly) because of the water (which, as the author notes, comes from reservoirs upstate).
The store owner then goes on to confound this principle by talking about people going "home to Long Island" and bringing back bagels to freeze.
Here's the thing: most or all of the water in Long Island (using the definition that most people use, i.e., Nassau and Suffolk Counties) does not come from upstate. It comes from ground water aquifers under said island which have little in common geologically (and accordingly, taste-wise) with the water collected in the upstate reservoirs and fed into the NYC system.
Now I realize that people going to LI could be driving to NYC for the bagels, but I think that this is unlikely (I have lots of experience with that drive - if you are going to LI, you avoid as much as NYC as you possibly can). Further, and irrespective of the foregoing, lots of people seem to lump Long Island-made bagels in with NYC-made bagels as being either the same or substantially the same anyway. If this is the case (and for the record, I think the bagels in both locations are very nice), I just don't see how it can be the water.
Incidentally, the same applies to pizza (and, in particular, the crust).
The bagels are good
but the OJ is the best thing in that place
their bagels are great
if you're in the area it is definitely worth picking up some. stumbled across it a year or so ago and swing by every time i'm out in the burbs.
I feel like every....
...bagel conversation falls to the "No True Scotsman" fallacy almost immediately. "A TRUE NY bagel is... blah blah blah." It just never fails. I'm beginning to the think the NY bagel is more of a Platonic Idea than it is a real, tangible, edible thing. Perfect as it is conceptualized, always imperfect in the actuality of its physical iteration.
But, seriously, keep your cucumbers off of my lox/schmear.
Not that their perspective is authoritative, but I have a bunch
friends who are longtime NYC residents; they have long complained that the number of decent bagel places has been shrinking steadily for 40 years, and today it's really hard to find a decent one.
I'm bummed I never made it to
I'm bummed I never made it to H&H.