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Shooter or shooters of two women outside Fenway Park remain at large
By adamg on Tue, 10/06/2015 - 12:15pm
As police continue to hunt for at least one man, possibly in a silver car, who shot two women early on Sept. 6, a Yawkey Way bar is denying it had anything to do with the incident.
Gunfire around 2 a.m. hit both women in the thigh, shattered a window at Boston Beer Works, damaged the front of the Red Sox ticket office at Yawkey and Brookline Avenue and left sidewalks and the street littered with 11 .40-caliber shell casings, Sgt. Thomas Leahy told the Boston Licensing Board this morning. He added the shooter or shooters remain at large.
The licensing board held a hearing on the incident because police issued a citation to Who's on First after the women told police they had just left the bar when they were shot.
But Who's on First owner Robert Paratore told the board said he's been unable to find any evidence the women were actually in the bar - their names don't show up on any credit-card receipts from that night.
He said they may have arrived at Yawkey Way on their way to a "Let Out" afterparty being thrown somewhere else in Boston by the promoter who was running entertainment at the bar that night. Paratore said some of the promoter's employees did recognize photos of the women.
Paratore said the bar had no problems at all that night. "We didn't have problems," he said. "We didn't have to cut anybody off." Paratore estimated staffers denied entrance to 75 to 100 people, for reasons ranging from being already drunk to having bad IDs.
He said the first he heard of the shootings was when an employee washing down some equipment out back heard the commotion in the street as police were arriving. "The doors were already shut" and all customers out when the shootings occurred, he said.
Paratore continued he had no inkling anything might happen that night. He said BPD closely monitors social media, looking for postings about upcoming events by anybody who might cause trouble and is always very good about notifying him - to the point, he said, where he's canceled "dozens" of promoter's nights based on who might be attending. "We don't want that element in the neighborhood," he said.
The board decides Thursday what action, if any, to take.
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The licensing board held a
BPD's finest on the job. Two women shot after leaving a bar, so we'll issue a citation to the bar they left. And here I thought Barney Fife was only a fictional character.
And the fact the Licensing Board is even bothering to follow up on this nonsense is beyond pathetic.
I was wondering how long it
I was wondering how long it would be until the first moronic, anti-cop comment.
This is why they did it: America hates cops right now. We created a culture where they can do nothing right. They're basically just trying to cover their butts. So yeah, it's probably in their rules that they had to issue that citation. Better safe than sorry. If in two months, there's a video that magically appears showing the two girls in that bar, and some kind of verbal altercation ensued in there, people like you would be all over them if they DIDN'T issue a violation. So why not just issue it?!
Do you honestly think the BPD really cares if the bar gets hit with a fine or not? NO! They're just covering themselves. It took them two minutes to write that fine. They're probably pouring over tons of video to solve that shooting!
Say the girls DID
have an altercation in the bar. The fact remains that the shooting still occurred outside the bar on the street.
Issuing a citation to a business, and hauling them before the Licensing Board, for actions of alleged adults that didn't even occur on the premises of said business is overreaching and unnecessarily punitive.
Trying to stop a trend before it gets worse
Hypothetically, let's say a club has a certain "night" that consistently attracts a bad crowd. If that crowd, as they disperse, typically causes a disturbance of the peace (whether it's getting into fights or using guns or pissing on neighbors bushes), then I think the city has a right to say to the club, "You are causing this problem. Fix it." Those people came to that general location because of the club and thus the club has some culpability, even if 100% of the mayhem occurs off of their property.
Who you calling THOSE PEOPLE?
Who you calling THOSE PEOPLE?
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Um ...
Like many large organizations, BPD can do more than one thing at a time.
They can have detectives investigate the actual shootings and they can have a patrol supervisor issue a citation, and one thing doesn't have to slow up the other.
Part of the licensing board's job is to ensure that bars and restaurants don't turn into buckets of blood at which patrons run the risk of leaving in a body bag. The board may very well rule that Who's on First not only had nothing to do with the shooting, and that there was nothing it could have done to stop it. But that's what the hearing is for - you may recall how the initial police reports linked the shootings to "rowdy" Who's on First customers.
Point taken
about BPD. However, the shooting happened on a public street OUTSIDE the bar, not in the bar itself. With respect, seems to me this is another example of the Licensing Board exercising their powers "because we can" and not in the interest of actually furthering the investigation into the shooting.
So your beef is with the
So your beef is with the Board then, and not BPD, who you childishly insulted in your initial post.
What are the odds of an apology?
Don't need to give an apology
My original comment was in response to
While I acknowledged Adam's point about BPD being able to do more than one thing at once, I still believe it was overreaching for the police to issue a citation to the bar just because the women claimed to have left there BEFORE they were shot outside.
"Paratore said the bar had no
"Paratore said the bar had no problems at all that night. "We didn't have problems," he said. "We didn't have to cut anybody off."" Who's On First cutting of a patron? Lolz!