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By adamg on Wed, 12/05/2018 - 12:18pm
The folks at the Boston City Archives wonder if you can place this scene. See it larger.
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Boston City Archive Pic (12/5/18)
Was this picture taken in Roxbury?
It looks like it might've been.
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Some clues
* Campaign poster for Ward 12.
* Street sign in the top-left. It looks like the last three letters of the street name are "...TRY".
From the street sign, I'm
From the street sign, I'm going to guess that the cross street is Holworthy Street in Roxbury. So that would make the main street Walnut Street or Harold Street.
yep I think that's right,
yep I think that's right, looking north up Walnut Ave at the intersection of Holworthy St/Crawford St/Walnut Ave, interesting from that Do Not Enter sign it looks like at the time Holworthy St was going the other way
If so, no longer there
If it is Holworthy St, these buildings did not survive the redlining/arson of that era - they don't appear on Google Street View. (Perhaps not surprising considering the one in the foreground appears to be already boarded up.)
Yeah, I tried to find any
Yeah, I tried to find any streetcorner on Holworthy that looks like that picture and failed. But it seemed to be the only street in that Ward whose name could match what we can see of the street sign.
Harold and Holworthy St?
?
I've got the year
1962, though it seems later than that. I'll also go with somewhere in Grove Hall.
DONT REMEMBER GROVE HALL
BUT IT REMINDS ME OF ROXBURY CROSSING /MISSION HILL AREA
Upon further review
The corner of Parker and Alleghany Streets?
Second to last letter on the
Second to last letter on the street sign is not an "N". Could be an "R", could be an "H".
Alleghany
THAT STREET RAN OVER TO DONNELLY ADVERTISING ON ST ALPHONSES
I WAS ONLY TEN AT THE TIME BUT IN 1970 THE HILL WAS MOSTLY IRISH CATHOLIC.
BUT I DONT REMEMBER MUCH MORE THAN CALUMET ST AND BASEBALL FIELD ON TOP OF THE HILL.
Man, Donnelly Advertising
Man, Donnelly Advertising had shops all over the place , that's a blast from the past !
Upon further further review
Aldos is right.
What we can see of the three
What we can see of the three cars in the picture seems consistent with 1962 to me (totally not a car geek).
The Pants
The 2 guys on the right are wearing identical high-waist pants and string belts as the Sharks and the Jets did in West Side Story - released in 1961. (not totally a fashion geek.)
Parker street going up the
Parker street going up the hill , Belle truck is produce serving small markets , Budweiser sign market / beer store .
That 2nd car
I'm about 58% sure that the light-colored car is a 1960-ish Chrysler Imperial. Can't remember anything else with that type of taillight.
I’ll put my money on: the
I’ll put my money on: the southwest corner of Harold and Holworthy Street, looking south. All buildings now gone unfortunately.
This was a good one...just enough clues but not too easy.
The view today
Pretty sad.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Holworthy+St,+Boston,+MA+02121/@42.316571,-71.090168,3a,48.9y,208.98h,85.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBvjTKztY_IhOMLl_i0lW0A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e37bd394ecf015:0xe881bcc7c0725467!8m2!3d42.3165747!4d-71.090156?hl=en
Wow!
It kind of makes you want to cry.
I guess the pace of development in Boston is truly uneven.
Arson and Redlining
It ate massive holes in the fabric of the city.
great call
it looks so open without the houses there
Sad indeed!
A big change from the photo, which I liked. I like how it shows kids hanging out on their front steps and the family dog keeping them company by resting nearby on the sidewalk
Actually
that modern day view is looking down (south I think) Harold Street while the older photograph is looking east on Holworthy. So it's not as depressing as it first seemed when you look at the same angle. (Still not as great as the first shot though)
That is a sad sight!
The fact that there were houses there, which were razed is totally unfortunate.
E and West 5th streets?
south boston? 1968
Meanwhile, are those two men hugging in the lower right?
Maybe I'm projecting, but that's pretty progressive whatever the neighborhood!
The Dog
And for the record, can I say . . That's a good looking dog.
Thanks for playing, folks!
Thanks for playing, folks! This shows Harold and Holworthy Streets in Roxbury. Our Election Dept records show that a Dewey M. Duckett Jr ran for State Rep in the Sept 1962 Republican Primary, so we are dating this as the summer of 1962. Its possible that the sign is old, and so the photo is later, but it looks like its in pretty good shape. Dewey lost to Alfred Brothers, 1,491 to 542.