Boston to ditch those short-lived plastic handicap-ramp pads at intersections for cast-iron models
Boston has changed its requirements for the "tactile" nubbly pads that let people with sight issues know they're at a the end of a sidewalk to require pads made of cast iron, which it hopes will last longer than the easily shredded plastic ones it now uses, city Streets Chief Jascha Franklin-Hodge said this week.
Franklin-Hodge told a city-council hearing on maintaining city infrastructure that the plastic pads, now installed on thousands of ramps across the city, simply don't hold up in general and that they really don't deal well with a pilot city program to use Bobcats to clear key intersections of snow in the winter. "It has been murder on the tactile pads, because we now have Bobcats driving up and down on them in the winter," he said.
He added that, despite claims from manufacturers, they are not easy to replace, because underlying sidewalk conditions often require additional work before the pads can simply be unscrewed and new ones put down.
Franklin-Hodge was responding to a question from Councilor Kenzie Bok (Back Bay, Bay Village, Beacon Hill, Fenway, Mission Hill), who said the plastic pads drive her, but especially her mobility-impaired constituents nuts, because once they fray, they can easily get jammed into wheelchair wheels.
Franklin-Hodge did not discuss the cost of the new, more permanent pads.
Bok asks the question and Franklin-Hodge answers it:
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Was it not too long ago…
…that The Plan was to make sure every intersection in Boston is wheelchair accessible? AFAIK, that didn’t happen.
Already talking about upgrading?
Still the plan
But it's a ten-year plan.
Good
I assumed contractors got rich selling us this junk. The plastic pads are a joke.
Sad part is, now the same contractors sell us more and install them for the 3rd time in 3 years.
Cement and granite sidewalks last decades without replacement. We got ripped off by whoever sold the plastic pads.
Contractors don’t sell anything
Shame on Public Works for specifying a cheap product that even my 6 year old knew wouldn’t work.
safety measures for the disabled community
Turns out Beacon Hill was right in their legal battle with Mayor Walsh. (1) they said that the plastic didn't last and ended up costing the city more with replacements; and (2) the city was lying when they said ramps were a safety emergency and needed immediate replacement throughout the city (which got them around 1955 legislative act on historical districts). A decade later has yet to happen.
We sure took a lot of shit on this site, though
It was obvious that the plastic ramps were crap and that Walsh's "emergency" declaration was bullshit, but, man, anybody trying to point that out back in 2014 sure took a heaping load of shit here on this site.
https://www.universalhub.com/comment/364061
universally accessible
Ditch the archaic and inaccurate handicap designation.
MA is so bad at this. Do better.
How slippery will cast iron
How slippery will cast iron be in the rain? If they're designed like the existing rubber pads, there aren't enough nubbins to keep you from slipping on a flat spot.
My concern exactly
Whenever I bike over one of those pads (being careful not to do it if peds are nearby), I'm always concerned that my tire will slip. If these are like those smooth manhole covers, this would be a problem.
They are around.
Legacy place in Dedham has them and I also noticed them in Newport RI. I have personally walked on them in the winter at Legacy Place. Not anymore slippery than the plastic ones. Good idea. The first gen plastic ones are already SH!T, pay more now for longevity.
Cast iron in Toronto
In my recent trip to Toronto I took a picture of their cast iron pads. Nibs seem like there are closer together and the spaces between the nibs look (I don't recall going on the picture) perforated to make the surface less slippery.
Look like these.
https://www.mainlinematerials.com/products/truncated-domes-advantage-cas...
EDIT
This vendor has 14 domes per 24 inches instead of 10. PDF also details the micro texture points.
https://armor-tile.com/assets/ada-c-2424.pdf
Assembly Sq
If you want to try out cast iron ramp pads, you can try Assembly Sq. Was there last night and I wasn't able to slide on them.
bad idea
Those plastic bumps solved one rare problem by creating so many others. Converting to metal will create different problems. Has anyone done a cost/benefit analysis?
Wonder which costs the city more?
Routinely replacing plastic ramps?
Or routinely defending lawsuits from pulverized coccyx?
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I hope they're nonskid.
I hope they're nonskid.