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City looks at turning part of the BPL main library in Copley Square into an upscale mini-mall

The Boston Business Journal reports city officials are considering leasing 150,000 square feet on three floors of the Johnson building (the newer one) to retailers - and that they are looking at changes to the building's exterior to make it more Apple Store-ish. Nordstrom at the BPL, anyone? Ooh, what about a Barnes and Noble?

In a tweet, BPL replies:

There's a proposed study in next year's capital plan. No firm plans until the FY13 budget is voted.

The plan shows a $1.5-million expenditure to study "enhancing the potential of the Children's Room, lecture hall and front entrance of the Central Library's Johnson Building."

"There's a lot of wasted space in that building," Mayor Menino told a group of reporters. Menino said the city would also look at other uses, including college classrooms, and that any changes would likely be on the Lenox Hotel side of the building.

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for some quiet time to myself to read, check out new books or use my laptop. Please don't turn it into a "shopping center". There's a fairly large, upscale mall a block away already. Expand the children's center, sure, maybe open a day-care. But a shopping center? *barf*

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I hate the idea that there is no public purpose that is worth the public money we spend on it,

or that every venture must be profitable on its own.

I'll wager someone approached Menino with this idea. Pubic space for private profit.

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is this a joke?

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The highest priority of government has become to sell, lease, or rent off public buildings and facilities to commercial interests.

And $1.5 million to "study" this idiotic idea? Great use of the taxpayer's money - not!

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How many expanded hours at the branch libraries could $1.5 million fund?

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on the residents of the city.

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Wow. This is just surreal.

Without doubt, the best part of the story is Michael Ross' tentative endorsement:

If there’s an opportunity to do it tastefully and do it well and if it’s the right type of use, it makes sense. There’s truth to the fact that there are some dead spots at the library, it closes early and it’s not open entirely on weekends. I’m looking forward to hearing more.

So first the city slashes funding for the library, forcing it to close on weekends and to cut back its hours. Then it justifies converting 150,000 sqf of space into retail, because the library isn't open often enough? If I hadn't just read it, I wouldn't believe it.

The demand that the library generate revenue to cover its operating costs is a betrayal of its foundational purposes. It's a public amenity. The Johnson building is ugly as sin, and re-skinning it to make it more welcoming is a grand idea. But if that's what's necessary to attract patrons to businesses, why not reskin it instead to make the library itself more welcoming and approachable? And it shouldn't be lost on anyone that the Johnson building is where the library's services to the disadvantaged are clusters - the classes and computers and space relied upon by so many to close the digital divide.

This story is an embarrassment to our city. Spending $1.5m on the study, though, is a positive scandal.

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was designed the way it was for a reason: when you look at it in the same plane as the McKim Meade and White building (one of america's greatest buildings, as many architectural historians would tell you) there are themes from the older building echoed in the new one, not to mention the balance of the two buildings, etc.

How shameful that our society no longer values important architecture and that consumerism is our God. aren't there enough tacky malls and chain stores here? Keep the flip-flop-wearing American Eagles masses out of the BPL!!!!

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It has the same height. Other than that ...

How many times was Johnson thrown out of Boston for his architectural abominations , by the way?

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Where is Xaviera Hollander when you need her? Proximity to The Mandarin and Lenox Hotels and the Hynes Convention Center all beg for adding a fancy Gentlemen's club to the area. One where the service providers are required to study the library' holdings during the day so that they can discuss classical questions and modern issues while satisfying their customers at night.

An off topic question arises however: why are there no brothels for women patrons? The BPL could be a leader in providing intimate services to both sexes and everyone in between.

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Nordstrom or Target, where have I heard those stores mentioned before?

Right, the Filenes hole.

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Isn't there already a Target planned in the Fenway on Boylston St., not more than one mile away from BPL?

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More ideas are needed... a) Circulation Department at Boston Public Library is poorly designed keeping folks uncomfortably in a cue too far from the bulletin board on the wall to read notices while waiting in line. b) BPL staff at the Circulation Counter lack good communication skills with the public. c) Generally things in the Johnson Building are too far apart. The d) Access Center for folks with disabilities is too limited only serving some of the disabled communities. e) Reference Desk librarians should have telephone equipment that allow moving around among the shelves while on the telephone answering enquiries. e) A new building is needed for the Science, Industry and Business Division of Boston Public Library like New York Public Library in the old B. Altman Department Store
http://legacy.www.nypl.org/research/sibl/altman/tc...

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Ugh, just what Back Bay/Copley needs, more retail space.

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Mini-mall?

That's yesterday's thinking, and a waste of good real estate. How about a 30-story luxury condo tower, built by Vernado?

Seriously, how much money is Menino getting out of this?

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How about adding in some beds and showers? That way, the homeless people who lurk, leer, and generally make patrons feel uncomfortable never have to leave.

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*whine*

This kind of reeks of a whiney child responding to their younger sibling getting a new toy. The ISGardner expands into a shiny, new, modern expansion and all of a sudden the BPL wants an Apple-esque remodel?

Humn. Gee. Yeah. Because we said so, that's why.

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oh fuck no... free public library not free anymore... only in boston..

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Mumbles to turn bottom two floors of City Hall into a Wal-Mart

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Convert the retail space across from Quincy Market with really ugly concrete building (Govt. Center) to one that serves the public.

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“It could be the place for a Nordstrom or a Target.”

Someone having a little fun with the reporter? Or trying to scare people into killing it?

Also, shouldn't there be a second source to confirm this before it's published?

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Crass. Just a crass idea.

The only acceptable thing I can think of off the top of my head is if the space shifted from library to some sort of public museum, perhaps of history/natural history.

Get a consortium of the local universities together and build a curating/governing body and let them have free reign as to what is exhibited at the BPL space.

F&*k whoever came up with the idea of converting the BPL into a Target.

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The Johnson Building and especially its façade could use some rethinking, and a couple of complementary businesses such as a cafe and gift shop could be welcome additions. I bet the BPL could make some money selling map reproductions.

But just say NO to major commercial conversion of an important public institution.

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There's already a cafe at the BPL, The Map Room Cafe, adjacent to the courtyard that's run by Sebastians.

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I had to really look hard on the BPL web site to find anything about the cafe or restaurant. And there are many hours when people visit the library and neither of these facilities is open.

Before adding any more commercial space, I'd like to see the BPL fully use and promote what it already has.

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If it was done it could be a good place for ward maps to go. Or some small, indapendent (used?) bookstores. Something that, like the cafe, is a natural acompanyment to a library that otherwise can't afford rent in the area. Straight up retail though, absolutly not

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Perhaps, but what I was really thinking of was for the BPL to sell reproductions of the old maps in its own extensive collection. Perhaps they could even have a print-on-demand machine for these.

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If this item had been posted on April 1 I would have assumed that it was a response to that holiday.

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What's needed is a Guide to Problematical Boston Public Library Use. Usability of BPL services involve things not going along as planned. A Guide to Problematical Library Use would have your back so to speak with hints, tips, pointers when things go askew. Other library users, Reference Desk librarians, all could share their expertise. It could include librarians who would like to list their expertise with Boston Public Library collections. The general anonymity of BPL staff makes library usability difficult.

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Who are the treasured folks of Boston Public Library?... For example there's the fellow at the BPL Government Documents Division, a former candidate for Boston City Council. With expertise about Boston city government and neighborhoods, this guy in responding to Reference Desk enquiries is thorough. We'd be fortunate if that campaign for City Council would be renewed ! Curatorial Staff of our Boston Public Library each have great expertise with their respective Boston Public Library collections as are our Museum of Fine Arts Boston Curators expert about MFA collections. Recognition of treasured BPLers could include profiles of BPL folks on BPL web pages, profiled on Chronicle news magazine of WCVB-TV Needham Boston Channel 5. Regrettably marketing of BPL is slow witted and behind the curve! BPL staff could be encouraged to write, blog about their expertise with BPL collections. Compare "More Books" http://books.google.com/books/about/More_books.htm... the old Boston Public Library publication available on the shelf behind the Rare Book Department Reference Desk on the third floor of the old building in Copley Square. In "More Books" the old Boston Public Library publication, librarians wrote about BPL collections.

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The modern wing of the libary could def use a face lift as could the inside as well. Make that big wall that fronts Boylston more open and inviting to the public. Having a good cafe / shop inside the library (like at the MFA) would be awesome too and maybe generate some needed income to the library.
Right now the place looks dreary and worn out (i'm talking the new wing here not the original part).

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Back Bay has basically come down to 8 dominant demographic groups:

1) Mostly suburban commuters who work in the area

2) Tourists

3) RICH empty-nesters/ex-executive types

4) RICH mostly foreign 'students'

5) College students living mostly in school dorms along Comm. Ave.

6) Yuppies

7) 'Poor' living mostly in subsidized housing for the 'poor'

8) Homeless

I agree, B.B. needs another retail outlet/mall like a hole in the head. Traffic and congestion is already maxed. Why is so much development confined to this one small neighborhood? The city needs to draw more development, especially retail, to other areas, especially downtown crossing/Washington St corridor.

As far as the library is concerned, it already seems to be used primarily as a tourist attraction, complete with obnoxious tours with large groups, creating a anything but pleasant, quiet library experience. Regarding the homeless, why does Boston and other cities have so many? Primarily because social services and shelters, etc. are located here. We are picking up A LOT of the slack other places deal with by simply encouraging their homeless, mentally ill, etc. to go to the city. This is complete BS. We have a serious homeless and mental illness problem is this country that is not being adequately addressed, with most people looking the other way. A good start would be to audit and find out where all the millions in $ to address this issue ends up. Obviously, precious little trickles down.

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Closing the state mental asylums in favor of medicating patients at local dispensaries was one of the biggest mistakes ever made. The state is probably paying far more in policing and emergency room visits for this population than it did housing them in institutional settings.

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With a friend that works as a SPO in a hospital, I can vouch for that. Local towns just dump their problems on the Hospitals and the Hospitals in turn can only keep them so long before allowing them to get released.

In no time they're regulars, and many are mentally disturbed, violent, and addicted.

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SPO Surgery Paediatrics Obstetrics

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close, special police officer designation. Basically somewhat under state police charter, but with very small areas of jurisdiction. This case the Hospital grounds.

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What about opening a cupcake store in that space? Back Bay definitely has a shortage of cupcake stores.

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Available at branch libraries...
The Real Sheet newsletter of the BPLPSA
http://www.worldcat.org/title/real-sheet/oclc/4122...

Boston Public Library Professional Staff Association
http://bplpsa.info

Compare New York Public Library Guild
http://www.local1930.org

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