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West Roxbury residents say plan to fill in quarry is the pits
By adamg on Thu, 10/16/2014 - 7:37am
The Globe reports on neighborhood meeting at which residents blasted S.M. Lorusso & Sons' plans to turn the quarry into a receptacle for construction dirt from across the region. At issue: The traffic from all those trucks hauling the fill into the site and possible chemicals in the dirt.
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Olympics...
...great track and field (no danger from javelins) or sailing (make it a pond) site!
interesting off-topic thought
How much of the Olympics would be illegal in MA? Start with the shooting events ...
come to think of it, you're right!
...I got busted with my luge last december on fairmount hill...
The law was recently amended
The law was recently amended to make the banned (asinine move by the legislature in 1998) Olympic pistols legal in MA.
That is what they did in
That is what they did in Quincy to the majority of the quarries, with the Big Dig dirt.
However
Quincy Quarries was located adjacent to the highway, while Crushed Stone is in a residential neighborhood.
There is a neighborhood close
There is a neighborhood close by, at the Granite Railway Memorial. It is accessed off of Willard Street and it is just a short walk through the woods from the Quarries.
You miss the point.
The quarry isn't near a neighborhood and by a highway, it is right in the middle of a neighborhood, miles from a highway. Even getting the fill to the quarry would take great planning and a lot of care not to totally screw up the traffic for the whole area. As it is, massive trucks already drive down streets to & from the quarry that they aren't supposed to, when they think they can get away with it.
Wait
So there are already massive trucks driving through the neighborhood carrying stuff outbound from the quarry but changing those to inbound trucks loaded with dirt is a huge problem?
Yes, a certain number of
Yes, a certain number of trucks already have to go to and from the quarry every day to truck out rock. Already they disrupt the neighborhood because they don't always follow the laws they are required to, as to driving routes. Now, filling in this quarry would require thousands upon thousands upon thousands of truckloads MORE into and out of the quarry, and they aren't going to do it in 130ish years like they did taking the stuff out of the quarry.
So no, it's not really the same as how you described it. At all. That's not even mentioning the questionable nature of the material they were planning on trucking in.
only a little irony
With a bit of planning they could both empty and refill the quarry without increasing the number of trucks/trips thru the neighborhood. Just require that all trucks entering the premises be loaded with fill, and all trucks exiting the site be loaded with rock, gravel, sand, or whatever the heck it is they are quarrying. There...that problem's solved. I'll let someone else deal with the issue of contaminated waste being dumped in the neighborhood.
You are assuming an awful lot
You are assuming an awful lot there , pointdexter . Do you know how much a dump truck costs an hour? If you owned one, would you want it mucked up with hazmat schmeg ?if a guy wants to run clean stone, who is anyone to tell him otherwise that he needs to haul garbage. It don't work that way. Very impractical......
Not to mention...
the fact that replacing what you take out only keeps the hole the same size. That's not anyone's goal. The fact that the plan is impossible for tons of other reasons doesn't matter, since it could only work in a brand new quarry anyway, not one in use for over a century.
It was a J. O. K. E.,
It was a J. O. K. E., Gertrude. You can relax and go back to sniffing that finger.
Another joke
New cemetery?
Timing
Why can't there just be a limit then that only the same number of trucks inbound can be scheduled? No-one is saying the quarry has to be filled in within a certain time frame after all.
So the alternative is to
So the alternative is to leave the quarries as is as so they can eventually fill with water, cars and who knows what else and then the occasional teen death as they dive in?
Yup. That's the deal.
Two plans were presented. The LoRusso plan, and the water/cars/teen death plan, and we all chose the 2nd one, because those are the only two possible outcomes, and we hate traffic.
Build a temporary freight rail line to the quarry?
and use that to fill it in, instead of trucks? That worked for filling the Back Bay.
The dumping of potentially
The dumping of potentially toxic soil in a residential neighborhood is very concerning. I'm also concerned about the high pressure gas line that Spectra Energy wants to install along Grove St. next to the quarry and the metering station that Spectra wants to install right across the street from the quarry. If the quarry is still going to be blasting and shaking the ground for the next 75 years, how will that impact any high pressure gas lines running nearby?
I assume that you and all
I assume that you and all your neighbors have electric ranges and hot water heaters and oil burners.
Oh, look
It's one of those "if you use the product, you have to be totally OK with whatever dangerous or environmentally harmful method some corporation uses to produce it" comments. Because, after all, the corporation asked your permission, didn't they?
Shaken Not Stirred
Not at all. The comment was referring to the fact that you HAVE gas lines there already for your stoves and furnaces and crap and they haven't being shaken asunder by the blasting to date.
Actually.....
There's a big difference between the lines running under the street to supply household use gas and a natural gas pipeline.
Actually, yes.
There are no natural gas lines in the neighborhood closest to the quarry, in the Grove.
Not yet ...
One is in the works.
well, not the closest...
Woodbriar, Centre Lane, Wedgemere, those are all closer and have fully functional service. As does Grove St, which is in between the quarry and the grove.
Still
Cottage Rd, at least the section that abuts the site of the proposed M & R station, which is directly across from the quarry, does not have natural gas service.
The welds are X- rayed , no
The welds are X- rayed , no worries!
Complain about traffic and
Complain about traffic and then DEMAND more traffic inducing parking at every development project.
How about a land fill?
This quarry would make an excellent new dump for the city, and eventually another cool park for West Roxbury.
First time poster, but grew
First time poster, but grew up literally houses away from this place.
They already do such a wonderful job with dust abatement from the quarry (they don't) , I wonder how horrible of a job they'll do with thousands of tons of that contaminated topsoil blowing around the neighborhood.