Its a religious school, for jewish families, like Catholic schools. Would you have said the same thing if the person had a catholic school bumper sticker or do you save your rage for jewish people?
You think a "My student is on the honor roll at XYZ Public School" wouldn't have gotten the same sneers here? Let alone a BB&N or Beaver Country Day sticker?
My kids went to some fancy-pants schools, including one mentioned and I never put a sticker on my car advertising it. I don't really understand it. It's kind of a dipshit thing to do, but not as bad as leaving that pile of snow on the car. That does tick me off.
People choose SSDS because they want their kids to have a Jewish education, including partial Hebrew immersion - not something that is (or should be) available in the Newton public schools. Choosing SSDS or Catholic parochial schools is a valid personal choice, not a slur on the local schools, and should be respected.
And I'm sure there are plenty of idiots not clearing the tops of their vehicles whose kids go to public schools.
With the ticket being $35 for not clearing off your car, sounds like this person who pays $27k / year for private school education is really going to be hurtin if they get pulled over.
There's no excuse if you have a truck or SUV either. They have tools to help you get that snow off. Or grab a step ladder. The snow flying off can still kill someone, even if your vehicle is tall and clearing it off is hard.
Yes, people should clear the snow off their cars, but lets not get over-dramatic. This was the lightest, fluffiest snow I've seen in a long time here in the northeast. With every shovelful, I dreamed of skiing thru this stuff. It's absolutely wonderful snow.
Any snow falling off this car is going to feel like getting hit by a balloon. It hasn't gotten warm at all for the snow to get hard or turn to ice. The snow on that car is as fluffy as when it fell.
This doesn't excuse the driver for not removing the snow, but the dramatics are a bit much.
You've never driven on a highway where a pile of snow drops form someone's roof and blankets your windshield for a brief second - right when someone's trying to change lanes in front of you?
The snow doesn't endanger people by falling off the car onto them, it endangers people by flying back right onto the window of the car behind the offender, rendering that car blind for a few seconds. THAT is the danger.
It's supposed to warm up and rain a little with the snow tomorrow and Monday. That fluffy pile of snow will be a hunk of icy death after that, if it doesn't blow off before then, blinding the driver behind in a cloud of white. It's also against the law (because it's dangerous) so clean the damn thing off. If you say your car is too high to reach, who bought it for you that you had no choice in the matter - ask them to get you one of those extended reach brushes. They have them at Costco
if you are saying that snow on the roof of cars isn't a serious hazard.
It only takes a half second of being blinded by someone's snow in front of you to veer over or miss a chance to brake.
Also, if a big chunk flies off onto to the car behind it there is the very real chance that the driver would slam their brakes or instinctually veer out of it's way into another car.
... and you drive off the road, or into a parked car, or into a pedestrian, I'm glad the snow they clear from the accident scene will be ski-worthy.
Powdery snow is more likely to spread and stick on a windshield, while heavy snow can potentially break glass in the worst scenario, and obscure your view in the best scenario. Neither seems optimal.
(By the way, in reality, if the snow hasn't blown off that car as soon as they accelerate leaving their home, it's compact enough to do some damage.)
Here's some fines one might face (from the link above):
Many drivers do not realize that when they fail to properly remove snow from their car roofs, they are causing serious safety hazards on Massachusetts roads. If an accident occurs and you happen to be the driver who had not cleared the snow or ice from your vehicle, you can, and probably will, be cited for either what is known legally as "Driving with an Unsecured Load," which can cost you up top $200.00, or "Driving To Endanger," which is a more serious, criminal offense. Either way, it's going to cost you.
Lambert was driving behind a tractor-trailer on Route 209 near Jim Thorpe, Pa., when snow and ice dislodged and flew through her windshield, killing her instantly.
This is why I went into detail about the type snow on top of the car in the post and noted that the snow on that car wasn't going to kill anybody. I could have taken a block of snow off that car and dropped it on your head from 10 feet and you would have giggled. Thing is, I wouldn't be able to grab a block of snow off it because the snow was so powdery - it would have just crumbled in my hands.
Maybe you missed the part where I said that snow should be removed from the car. I wasn't denying that the driver was wrong, I was saying the poster was getting kind of dramatic with their claim that this soft, powdery snow could kill someone.
And yes, snow on top of a vehicle can become a flying missile as your article points out. Trucks in particular are really bad about removing snow and sending missiles into the air. I learned that lesson years ago when I was a stupid kid. It snowed one night, then turned to rain, then froze. My car had this glacier on the hood and I was too lazy to break it up. I drove off and got onto the interstate. Between the hood warming up and the air getting under the ice, a huge chunk of ice flew off. Luckily nobody was behind me. Even as a stupid kid, I knew I was very lucky not to have hurt someone.
But again, your example has nothing to do with the car in the picture.
If this car had driven yesterday morning instead of this morning, I could possible see that the snow was powdery, but after sitting for 36 hours, the snow looks as though it has compacted. Otherwise, wouldn't the snow hanging down over the rear window have fallen off in the person's driveway? Or when they began their drive?
We don't really know what the snow on this car was like. It they came home during the beginning of the blizzard the snow that fell on the warm car could certainly be ice this morning.
I can't excuse the behavior on the assumption that the snow was harmless. It may not have been. I think the reactions that this could create a deadly situation are not out-of-line.
When that crap turns to ice chunks, it can smash a windshield (happened to my brother) or even rip open a tire (happened to me last year). A less experienced driver, attempting to avoid a large flying chunk, can also cause a mulit-car accident.
Like having to buy gas more often, it's one of those things you have to accept when you own a larger vehicle. They make telescoping snow brushes, or you can stand in the door and push the snow to the other side off the roof.
This is a bonehead move, because, that snow can also let go and blind the driver of that car.
Over Thanksgiving I was driving my dad's car the day after there was a little snowstorm. I cleaned everything off, or I thought I did, but a coating of snow got stuck between the roof rack glides on the roof of the car--it was just a coating, and I didn't think anything about it.
I'm driving down to the Post Office, and I hit the brakes to make the turn into the drive. **Schlump** the snow let go and slid down onto my windscreen. A coating of crusty snow over the entire roof of a station wagon adds up, so by the time it all collected on the windscreen, I had about six inches of visibility over it. Luckily, I had only about 10 feet to go into the parking space about about five miles an hour, so I just inched into the space and then cleaned off the snow. Different story if this had happened while I slowed down on the highway or something.
I dont like these kinds of posts.. maybe he was in a rush, maybe he only drove two blocks to drop the kids off at school? With that much snow on the pike, its irresponsible.. but we dont know the context. Easy to call people on this, especially after the snow we have. you can do better than this.
I was almost hit this morning by a perennial Cambridge City Council candidate who received just double the number of write in votes who failed to clear the entire passenger side of his front windshield! Not to mention the snow pile on top....
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boston strong!
idiot.
Well Off Idiot
SSDS Sticker - Solomon Schechter Day School tuition runs $23K to $27K per year. SSDS - When Newton schools are just good enough.
SSDS
I thought it meant Same Shit, Different Shit.. :)
Actually it stands for
See Snow? Don't Shovel.
Snow Shoveling Deficit
Snow Shoveling Deficit Syndrome
I was gonna go with "stupid
I was gonna go with "stupid shithead didn't shovel."
Or perhaps
Same Shit - Different School
Its a religious school, for
Its a religious school, for jewish families, like Catholic schools. Would you have said the same thing if the person had a catholic school bumper sticker or do you save your rage for jewish people?
Oy.
You think a "My student is on the honor roll at XYZ Public School" wouldn't have gotten the same sneers here? Let alone a BB&N or Beaver Country Day sticker?
Kind of a Dip
My kids went to some fancy-pants schools, including one mentioned and I never put a sticker on my car advertising it. I don't really understand it. It's kind of a dipshit thing to do, but not as bad as leaving that pile of snow on the car. That does tick me off.
When I was growing up in the 1960s and 1970s
it was almost unheard of for parents to put a sticker or window decal advertising your kid's high school on their car.
Now colleges were a different manner, especially if it was a prestigious school.
Actually,
yes.
Let's not get into arguments over choosing parochial schools
People choose SSDS because they want their kids to have a Jewish education, including partial Hebrew immersion - not something that is (or should be) available in the Newton public schools. Choosing SSDS or Catholic parochial schools is a valid personal choice, not a slur on the local schools, and should be respected.
And I'm sure there are plenty of idiots not clearing the tops of their vehicles whose kids go to public schools.
That $35 ticket is really going to hurt them then
With the ticket being $35 for not clearing off your car, sounds like this person who pays $27k / year for private school education is really going to be hurtin if they get pulled over.
Is it related to the snow?
What does the sticker have to do with the not clearing the snow?
Hilarious. Move to expensive
Hilarious. Move to expensive city with very good schools - feel they're not good enough and send a kid to private school.
and so what?
It's not hilarious. It's irrelevant.
What's the other sticket?
Swim Taxi?
It says "Savta Taxi"
Savta is hebrew for Grandmother.
it aint..
Fessy but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Newton isn't in Boston... der
Newton isn't in Boston... der.
Adam cracks me up
"roving pile of white death"
I'm all for officer
I'm all for officer discretion in regards to civil infractions, but this kind of stuff should be an automatic foot up the ass.
That annoys me as well! If
That annoys me as well! If you have anything that's not a truck or an SUV there is no excuse not to clean off your car.
No qualifiers needed
There's no excuse if you have a truck or SUV either. They have tools to help you get that snow off. Or grab a step ladder. The snow flying off can still kill someone, even if your vehicle is tall and clearing it off is hard.
That snow isn't going to kill anybody
Yes, people should clear the snow off their cars, but lets not get over-dramatic. This was the lightest, fluffiest snow I've seen in a long time here in the northeast. With every shovelful, I dreamed of skiing thru this stuff. It's absolutely wonderful snow.
Any snow falling off this car is going to feel like getting hit by a balloon. It hasn't gotten warm at all for the snow to get hard or turn to ice. The snow on that car is as fluffy as when it fell.
This doesn't excuse the driver for not removing the snow, but the dramatics are a bit much.
You've never driven on a
You've never driven on a highway where a pile of snow drops form someone's roof and blankets your windshield for a brief second - right when someone's trying to change lanes in front of you?
I think maybe you miss the point.
The snow doesn't endanger people by falling off the car onto them, it endangers people by flying back right onto the window of the car behind the offender, rendering that car blind for a few seconds. THAT is the danger.
It can also "blind" the driver of the snow-covered car....
... if the car has to brake suddenly, and the snow covers _his) (or her) own windshield.
only snow now
It's supposed to warm up and rain a little with the snow tomorrow and Monday. That fluffy pile of snow will be a hunk of icy death after that, if it doesn't blow off before then, blinding the driver behind in a cloud of white. It's also against the law (because it's dangerous) so clean the damn thing off. If you say your car is too high to reach, who bought it for you that you had no choice in the matter - ask them to get you one of those extended reach brushes. They have them at Costco
I take it you aren't a driver
if you are saying that snow on the roof of cars isn't a serious hazard.
It only takes a half second of being blinded by someone's snow in front of you to veer over or miss a chance to brake.
Also, if a big chunk flies off onto to the car behind it there is the very real chance that the driver would slam their brakes or instinctually veer out of it's way into another car.
A**holes of the world, clear your car of snow.
So when the snow hits your windshield and obscures your view...
... and you drive off the road, or into a parked car, or into a pedestrian, I'm glad the snow they clear from the accident scene will be ski-worthy.
Powdery snow is more likely to spread and stick on a windshield, while heavy snow can potentially break glass in the worst scenario, and obscure your view in the best scenario. Neither seems optimal.
(By the way, in reality, if the snow hasn't blown off that car as soon as they accelerate leaving their home, it's compact enough to do some damage.)
Wrong.
Wrong.
Powdery snow coming off, especially if there were on a faster-moving road, can blind the driver behind at a critical moment.
Also, this lovely powdery light fluffy snow was changing into nice lightweight blocks by last night.
How about a big fat fine then
Injuries are common enough that at least one Boston area lawyer is ready to take the case:
http://www.bostonaccidentlawyerblog.com/2014/02/avoid_causing_a_massachu...
Here's some fines one might face (from the link above):
A little googling finds plenty more:
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEViuqWspU4tEAHC4nnIlQ;_ylc=X...
Incorrect. It does kill people.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2011/01/pennsylv...
Bad example
This is why I went into detail about the type snow on top of the car in the post and noted that the snow on that car wasn't going to kill anybody. I could have taken a block of snow off that car and dropped it on your head from 10 feet and you would have giggled. Thing is, I wouldn't be able to grab a block of snow off it because the snow was so powdery - it would have just crumbled in my hands.
Maybe you missed the part where I said that snow should be removed from the car. I wasn't denying that the driver was wrong, I was saying the poster was getting kind of dramatic with their claim that this soft, powdery snow could kill someone.
And yes, snow on top of a vehicle can become a flying missile as your article points out. Trucks in particular are really bad about removing snow and sending missiles into the air. I learned that lesson years ago when I was a stupid kid. It snowed one night, then turned to rain, then froze. My car had this glacier on the hood and I was too lazy to break it up. I drove off and got onto the interstate. Between the hood warming up and the air getting under the ice, a huge chunk of ice flew off. Luckily nobody was behind me. Even as a stupid kid, I knew I was very lucky not to have hurt someone.
But again, your example has nothing to do with the car in the picture.
Powdery?
If this car had driven yesterday morning instead of this morning, I could possible see that the snow was powdery, but after sitting for 36 hours, the snow looks as though it has compacted. Otherwise, wouldn't the snow hanging down over the rear window have fallen off in the person's driveway? Or when they began their drive?
We don't really know what the snow on this car was like. It they came home during the beginning of the blizzard the snow that fell on the warm car could certainly be ice this morning.
I can't excuse the behavior on the assumption that the snow was harmless. It may not have been. I think the reactions that this could create a deadly situation are not out-of-line.
How about this?
When that crap turns to ice chunks, it can smash a windshield (happened to my brother) or even rip open a tire (happened to me last year). A less experienced driver, attempting to avoid a large flying chunk, can also cause a mulit-car accident.
$10 excuse
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Quickie-Bulldozer-18-Indoor-Outdoor-Push-Broom...
Thinking they are above the
Thinking they are above the law and common decency is such a typical move from an SUV driver.
such a typical move from a
Fixed that for you.
Don't you mean (to bash) Newton, not Boston?
That picture was taken in Newton on a school snow day with a Newton school sticker on it. Seems pretty darn likely that's a Newton resident.
Okay then
Masshole driver.
No excuses
Like having to buy gas more often, it's one of those things you have to accept when you own a larger vehicle. They make telescoping snow brushes, or you can stand in the door and push the snow to the other side off the roof.
Newton!
Seriously, that could've been the content of the article body.
Really need to show the
Really need to show the person's plate number? Come on
Um...
they're driving around showing their plate number. You think they should be able to drive around anonymously acting like a jackass?
The vehicle is on a public road
so showing the license number is fair game. No "right to privacy" here.
Careful...
These types tend to be litigious when embarrassed.
Ridiculously Dangerous
This is a bonehead move, because, that snow can also let go and blind the driver of that car.
Over Thanksgiving I was driving my dad's car the day after there was a little snowstorm. I cleaned everything off, or I thought I did, but a coating of snow got stuck between the roof rack glides on the roof of the car--it was just a coating, and I didn't think anything about it.
I'm driving down to the Post Office, and I hit the brakes to make the turn into the drive. **Schlump** the snow let go and slid down onto my windscreen. A coating of crusty snow over the entire roof of a station wagon adds up, so by the time it all collected on the windscreen, I had about six inches of visibility over it. Luckily, I had only about 10 feet to go into the parking space about about five miles an hour, so I just inched into the space and then cleaned off the snow. Different story if this had happened while I slowed down on the highway or something.
too easy
I dont like these kinds of posts.. maybe he was in a rush, maybe he only drove two blocks to drop the kids off at school? With that much snow on the pike, its irresponsible.. but we dont know the context. Easy to call people on this, especially after the snow we have. you can do better than this.
Doesn't matter if it's just two blocks
What is it they say about most accidents happening within a mile of your home?
Most people never leave the 5
Most people never leave the 5-mile radius around their home
Never, ever?
Never, ever?
Never
It's from a study done in 1834.
Oh the humanity. *eyeroll*
Oh the humanity.
*eyeroll*
At least the windshield was clear!
I was almost hit this morning by a perennial Cambridge City Council candidate who received just double the number of write in votes who failed to clear the entire passenger side of his front windshield! Not to mention the snow pile on top....
blocking "trolls"
But encouraging discourse on semantic, self rightous BS.....
Parochial 'burg banter For The Win.
Try minding your own business
Try minding your own business.
Try
Taking a flying fuck at a rolling donut.
Maybe I need a long rest somewhere, but...
I find myself looking at the photo of the car, its silhouette with the dome of snow above, flaring out to the fenders below - and saying
Darth Vader's helmet?
or
Legion of Doom HQ?
Perhaps we should look on the bright side
At least they're using their turn signal.