Jury sentences Tsarnaev to death
Death by lethal injection for killing Martin Richard and Lingzi Lu, but found he didn't deserve death for the murder of Krystle Campbell and MIT officer Sean Collier.
WBUR has more details.
Statement by Mayor Walsh:
I want to thank the jurors and the judiciary for their service to our community and our country. I hope this verdict provides a small amount of closure to the survivors, families, and all impacted by the violent and tragic events surrounding the 2013 Boston Marathon. We will forever remember and honor those who lost their lives and were affected by those senseless acts of violence on our City. Today, more than ever, we know that Boston is a City of hope, strength and resilience, that can overcome any challenge
Statement by Dic Donohue:
Just over two years after the events that impacted us as a community and a nation, we can finally close this chapter in our lives. The verdict, undoubtedly a difficult decision for the jury, gives me relief and closure as well as the ability to keep moving forward
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based on the aggregating factors ...
Lots of "yes" answers to the aggravating charges. Feels like this is leading up to a 'yes' on the death penalty. This is oddly riveting as the actual punishment seems to get announced last
and death it is
and I'm OK with it. Although the practical person inside me knows it would be cheaper to lock him in a cell forever.
To be forgotten...
...in a "cleaner version of hell", as ADX Florence has been described, just like every other terrorist and dangerous criminal who is sent there. I'd rather see him live for the rest of his life in hell on Earth in a tiny cell with nothing to occupy his mind than to give him any more notoriety.
So it's torture then? I hear
So it's torture then? I hear there might be a job opening at Gitmo.
Alive there's always the chance of release:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelbaset_al-Megrahi
What's your angle?
Are you anti-death penalty or anti-prison? Being alone 24/7 isn't in and of itself "torture". A strong person could survive.
In order to be placed on
Death Row, you have to be inconclusively found guilty. I know we have innocent people behind bars, but not on death row.
The process should be streamlined.
Inconclusive guilt?
Was that a Freudian slip? We have plenty of innocent people on death row. Check out Barry Scheck and the Innocence Project. Read about Pat Quinn.
The death penalty, imho, smacks of hypocrisy.
To quote an accurate quote:
Also, being webcast on WCVB
http://www.wcvb.com/news/newscenter-5-breaking-news/26098608
They will show split screen of judge announcing jury verdict on penalty and Tsarnaev's reaction.
Federal trials are not
Federal trials are not broadcast
I apologize. I should clarify
I apologize. I should clarify that was what the victims' families were going to be seeing,as well as other courtroom observers. We get the clerk's reading instead.
They deliberated only 13 hours....
That's not good for the toussle-haired youth.
Disgusting
State-sanctioned killing is more akin to totalitarian regimes, than the United States of America. This is a sad day. Now we get years upon years of appeals and the families of the injured and lost have to endure these memories OVER and OVER again. The nightmare that these families have been enduring is only beginning instead of ending, as would have happened if we locked him up and threw away the key. Disgusting. It's time to abolish the death penalty.
Well really
locking somebody up for what could be a half dozen or more decades doesnt seem to be humane either
A supermax has a bed, food,
A supermax has a bed, toilet, food, water, a window, & 1 hr of rec time. Most importantly he has his LIFE. It is humane punishment. No one has the right to take a life away from another, including the State.
he would be alive
but that is not a life, nor is it humane
you might consider doing some research on what affect harsh sentences have on crime prevention/preventing recidivism
Look I totally support
Look I totally support sentencing reform for most crimes. We lock up way too many people. This is an extreme case and a case where I believe that the prison system IS the right solution. You mention "preventing recidivism" but if he's sentenced to life, he's not going to get out... He's not going to have an opportunity to do this crime again, or any crime.
true
no crimes have ever been committed in jail
You do realize where he was
You do realize where he was going right? It's not your average jail. It's a top level supermax. The shower is in his room. It's not like he can shank someone in the shower.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a regular Four Seasons according to this jabroni.
The bed is made out of concrete, the "window" is about a four inch slit offering zero view of anything worthwhile, and you get one hour of rec time by yourself in a cement cage.
Then its back into solitary for another 23 hours.
I'll wager a guess the food sucks.
And that is considred humane to you? Lock someone in a hole and forget about them for 60 years is humane?
What do you believe should
What do you believe should happen to him then? Serious question.
Honestly?
He should be hung in the town square at day break.
trial by combat
he can fight aaron hernandez. winner gets to play for the oakland raiders.
this ensures that each party is still punished for their crimes.
Just like in Iran...
They're the shining example of justice, aren't they?
You know who else liked
You know who else liked executing people in town square? Nuts who treated black people as slaves and didn't allow women to vote. Try to evolve past the 1600's.
Spend a lot of time in the can?
Particularly a Supermax? It's designed for only one purpose: to drive it's inmates insane. No hope of rehabilitation.
Wrong
"No one has the right to take a life away from another, including the State."
First half correct, second half wrong. The state does have the right to take a life. In this case that right was exercised by a jury under the careful guidance of the law, as built up in the last two hundred years in this country.
Justice was served. If you don't like it, work to change it, but do not say it was not correct.
Me? I'm good.
Well said
The country and the city and the very people he shred, murdered, and mutilated gave him a chance. A jury, charged with looking at evidence, and making a decision.
That's a lot more than he gave Martin Richard, and hundreds of others.
I'll stand with the jury on this one. And in this instance, they are the only ones that matter.
Best comment on this thread
Couldn't have said it better.
People who disagreed with the
People who disagreed with the death penalty were not allowed to serve on the jury. The verdict will be seen as disgusting around the world.
only pro-death-penalty people can serve on the jury
in death penalty cases, guaranteeing a verdict for the death penalty.
In Massachusetts, the majority of people are against the death penalty.
So that was not a jury of his peers.
Not quite
Yes, people who object to the death penalty were excluded from the jury. No, that doesn't mean the people who did serve were necessarily "pro" death penalty.
"pro" death penalty?
I don't know what you mean by that, Adam. They had to agree that they did not have a moral objection to the death penalty. They aren't "pro" death penalty in that they want it applied whenever it is offered or anything. But it does mean that given a case where there's a proven justification for applying it, they are fine with doing so. Call it "pro" choice....on the death penalty.
This wasn't a debate on the use of the death penalty. There was no chance on a life without parole decision, because if he did enough to justify that then he might as well be dead and you have a jury of members who have said they'd be willing to kill him. So, what set of circumstances would lead people who will kill you to think you are unredeemable but not worth killing?
Thus, it's a foregone conclusion which may even be how it should be if you have the death penalty on the books. Thus, death penalty opponents should work to fix the law, not depend on or bemoan a lack of jury nullification of it.
Only 15% of Bostonians polled
Only 15% of Bostonians polled wanted him executed. On the side of execution you have North Korea and ISIS. Congrats on being on the wrong side of history.
If they had seen all the evidence
I wonder how that supposed 15% would have changed if people had seen in detail all of the evidence and heard all of the testimony presented to this fair and impartial jury.
I also seriously doubt that only 15% supported the death penalty in this case. Perhaps the sample was taken at a Cambridge convention of Quakers.
Consider the source of that poll
The Boston Globe paid for that poll. And broadcast it's results. Which just happened to coincide with their above the fold
editorial positionin depth reporting on the whole trial. The Globe is welcome to their opinion, and protected in their expression of it. But their all-stops-out attempt to influence the process and the jury here left a pretty bad taste in my mouth.Not to mention
Not to mention the agony of having to listen to people politicize the punishment OVER and OVER again.
um, but you did mention it...
the case go on and on, over and over on appeal; this is from what the Richards family, and others, should be spared...u wanna talk about agony?
not sure you get the meaning of the word brother.
We need another Jack Ruby
That should take care of the appeals process.
And you stand where on abortion?
Just curious.
nobody
should be pro abortion but thats different from being pro choice
food for thought
Sounds like a cop out
.
its scary to me
that you think that answer is a cop out
nobody has ever been happy to have to get an abortion. by their nature they happen because of an unwanted or dangerous pregnancy. never having had an abortion this is an assumption but i assume there is a pretty severe emotional toll on a person deciding to get an abortion or finding out its medically recommended to do so.
so yeah, i would say that being pro choice but not necessarily pro abortion isnt a cop out, its just being human.
What's scary to me
Is you think killing this maggot is disgusting but killing a baby is OK because "my body my choice".
interesting
i never said killing him was disgusting
If it hasn't come out, it's not a baby
And please, let's keep adding more drains on what's left of our resources.
Tell that
Tell that to a hopeful mother who miscarried.
i did
it didnt play well
My goodness!
Let's try and keep logic and emotion separate here, shall we?
Congratulations
On a totally irrelevant derailment of this thread into a discussion of what reproductive rights you might or might not allow
Actually, its not, you dumbass.
Sorry you can't see the obvious parallels, but not everyone is capable of thinking logically.
Obviously, the crux of it depends on when you believe a fetus becomes an actual human being deserving of rights, which in this instance is the right to not be murdered.
If you took logic, you know
If you took logic, you know your ad hominem topic is a fallacy.
You want to adopt unwanted
You want to adopt unwanted kids? Go to a foster home and have your pick because there are plenty there. Otherwise stfu because abortion lowers the crime and welfare rates and the amount of children in foster homes.
Boo Hoo
Im just wrenching in agony think about the execution of a muslim extremist who attached my city and killed innocent people.
Get over yourself!
so what youre saying is
you think hes a barnacle?
please
Get off your high horse.
And many non totalitarian Asian countries have capital punishment (hanging in Japan);I consider them just as 'civilized' as the Euros, who are the ones who mostly piss and moan about capital punishment.
Now we get years upon years
That is a very good reason why we need to seriously reform the appeals system (especially the "automatic" do-overs we give to people found guilty). But it's not a good reason to totally abolish the death penalty.
Well said. Civilized
Well said. Civilized countries don't execute people in 2015. Only simpletons think bloody vengeance is the best course. Even though this is a federal case the execution makes Boston look like a Third world city.
Oh, Marty
"I hope this verdict provides a small amount of closure to the survivors, families, and all impacted by the violent and tragic events surrounding the 2013 Boston Marathon"
Even the survivors and families who said they didn't want him killed?
Marty, sometimes it's better
Marty, sometimes it's better to not release a statement.
The Midget Mayor Marty has no
The Midget Mayor Marty has no original thoughts or opinions of his own. He waits to see where the wind is blowing, then figures out how to cash in.
on appeal...
..there is no closure for sometime to come..interesting to me that the ones MOST affected by this with tremendous loss and sorrow are the most merciful...humbling lesson in that.
Great!
I absolutely didn't expect this outcome, but I'm very glad the jury found as they did.
would you be up for...
....pulling the trigger?
....inserting the needle?
....flipping the switch?
....placing the rope?
serious questions.
i would
but i would probably ship him to florida and feed him to the gators
I'd be up for three out of the four.
I've always been squeamish about needles.
not sure why...
...but I don't believe either of you.
whether one believes in or opposes the death penalty: why is taking another life, whether you believe it is deserved or not, a cause for joy, gladness, and other elation expressed in this thread? The level of flippancy regarding this guy's fate is disturbing. This is not a video game. Like it or not, it is still premeditated killing. Add to the innocents already lost, I just don't see much to be happy about.
oh no
i have no aversion to killing, trust me
there are no stray cats in my neighborhood.
Psycho....
Seek help.
Agreed
It's sickening how glad people are that someone is going to die. At this point, those people scare me more than this kid.
They're cowards...
They should not scare you. They would never do any of the sick things that they want to do to criminals. They probably wouldn't even defend themselves if confronted. LIke I said, they're cowards.
Let the mindless sound and fury begin
Oh. Never mind.
Mitigating factors were nonsense
The only real arguments against the death penalty for this case are arguments against the death penalty in general. The jurors already have to be okay with the death penalty, so those arguments aren't going to work.
If I were on the jury, I would have had a very hard time sentencing him to life based on the arguments made by the defense. It's hard to see how being nice in middle school somehow would be a factor in the decision. It's also hard to take the argument that his brother made him do it seriously when there was never any attempt to stop the attack and the note left in the boat was done without the brother. I also found the nuns testimony to be disgusting - the jury saw him showing no remorse throughout the trial. If he was actually remorseful, then he would be able to show it himself, not get a nun to lie for him. All of those arguments would have just made me more angry and believe the death penalty is the right choice.
Agreed
It's was irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he was raidicalized by a cleric at the MSB, his brother or online, his past actions shouldn't mitigate his abhorrent actions in 2013.
It like saying "well he onced help an elderly lady carry her groceries."
I'm very happy with he's sentancing. There's no place in civilized society for scum like him.
He'll finally get to meet his maker, dirt!
lol
he made me mad he should die
Do away with the death penalty...
...and people like me could actually sit on a jury on a case like this. You want blood. That's vengeance, not justice.
Legally, the verdict is correct...
based on the criteria. But, it is why I could not have served on the jury as I cannot support the death penalty. Sad, sad day.
Yup...
People like you and me don't exist in death penalty cases. In short, we have no voice.
What they should of played before he left
Either...
Or
Gov't doesn't have the drugs!
Federal Bureau of Prisons: We are "not in possession" of lethal injection drugs. (Statement to MSNBC tonight)
This creates an awkward situation. The government might not even be able to kill him and the SCOTUS is to rule on the lethal injection next month. The drugs also can't be acquired anymore, as the pharmas are against their drugs being used for capital punishment now.
Well....
They could use the Chair, hanging, firing squad, or gas chamber.
They cannot. The federal
They cannot. The federal death penalty is lethal injection and only lethal injection.
Change it
to include various types of execution. This obsession with creating a kinder, gentler execution by way of lethal injection is just a ploy to end capital punishment. HANG HIM, or use The Chair, gas chamber, firing squad. Enough of this crap already.
A Lethal Injection is no more humane than other methods:
In fact, it can be even worse than a rope, a rifle squad, the electric chair, or even the gas chambers, because the person being executed via a lethal injection dies even more painfully, and horrifically.
Griefs.
I measure every Grief I meet
With narrow, probing, eyes –
I wonder if It weighs like Mine –
Or has an Easier size.
I wonder if They bore it long –
Or did it just begin –
I could not tell the Date of Mine –
It feels so old a pain –
I wonder if it hurts to live –
And if They have to try –
And whether – could They choose between –
It would not be – to die –
I note that Some – gone patient long –
At length, renew their smile –
An imitation of a Light
That has so little Oil –
I wonder if when Years have piled –
Some Thousands – on the Harm –
That hurt them early – such a lapse
Could give them any Balm –
Or would they go on aching still
Through Centuries of Nerve –
Enlightened to a larger Pain –
In Contrast with the Love –
The Grieved – are many – I am told –
There is the various Cause –
Death – is but one – and comes but once –
And only nails the eyes –
There’s Grief of Want – and grief of Cold –
A sort they call “Despair” –
There’s Banishment from native Eyes –
In sight of Native Air –
And though I may not guess the kind –
Correctly – yet to me
A piercing Comfort it affords
In passing Calvary –
To note the fashions – of the Cross –
And how they’re mostly worn –
Still fascinated to presume
That Some – are like my own –
***
My brother is doing Life w/out parole in CO. I was hoping that Dzhokar could have a similar benefit towards redemption. (Maybe still possible.)
I am opposed to the death
I am opposed to the death penalty as are most Boston and and Massachusetts citizens. However given the aeriuous nature of these crimes, I am less upset about seeing this young man execued.
It's important to remember that in an act of political grandstanding Attorney General, Eric Holder made the decision to both try this in a Federal court ND to make this a death penalty case superseding the tradition of federal prosecutors observing state policies about the death penalty.
The result is that the taxpayer is on the hook for a much more expensive trial which will drag on for years.
The irony is that despite all of the politiclal rhetoric today about closure for the victims, the larger Federal capital trial will prevent that closure from years to come.
Walsh: "closure"? A death
Walsh: "closure"? A death sentence means years if not decades of appeals. We could even have an entire new trial in a few years' time depending on what the defense attorneys come up with on appeal.
From the Globe article:In the
From the Globe article:
I think that's telling. The jury may indeed have been convinced by the "Tamerlane was responsible" argument, but not where Dzhokhar placed his own bomb.