The honor once bestowed upon just 4 players in the course of like, a hundred years has become so watered down and meaningless that they now can retire Pedro's number? I'll allow it if they retire private jet flights to games and accomodations and per diems for personall travelling midgets as well.
After Yaz, Jim Rice was the only one deserving of having his number retired at Fenway.
In a 2008 publicity stunt, the Red Sox broke all of their established rules to retire the number of Johnny Pesky who never has and never will be elected to the Hall of Fame. By then, he was at a very advanced age and it was around the time the Red Sox kicked him off the field for fear he'd get hurt by a line drive. It was was simply planned as a moneymaker but rendered the other retired numbers meaningless. Pesky was a great American but a marginal player. If they wanted to honor him, a memorial to the players who served in WW II would have been more appropriate.
Look at Pesky's numbers again, he was a legitimate MVP candidate in his best couple of years, and in 1946 he was probably one of the five best players in baseball, with Ted Williams and Stan Musial the only two guys that year that you could definitively say were better. Yeah, he's well short of the hall on the published numbers, but if you give him credit for the three prime years he missed for WWII(the year before and the year after his missed time were his two best seasons), you can argue that he's a borderline Hall of Famer, with a comparable case to Phil Rizzuto. Hell, if you give any sort of war credit, he was almost certainly a better player than Jim Rice, making him not even the worst player with a retired number. Hardly a marginal player.
There's more to having your number retired than what you did on the field. The guy dedicated his life to the Red Sox and was around the team for nearly all of it. Nobody on the Red Sox can wear number 42, but Jackie Robinson hit exactly 0 HR for the Sox. It's what he did in life that makes him worthy of a retired number in every ballpark.
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jimmy fox
What about Jimmy
that's great
and appropriate.
Noooooooooo!!!!
The honor once bestowed upon just 4 players in the course of like, a hundred years has become so watered down and meaningless that they now can retire Pedro's number? I'll allow it if they retire private jet flights to games and accomodations and per diems for personall travelling midgets as well.
After Yaz, Jim Rice was the only one deserving of having his number retired at Fenway.
Troll?
Tell me you're trolling.
Huh?
What do private jets and per diems have to do with anything?
That little guy was the best
of his time.
Retired numbers meaningless since Johnny Pesky's
In a 2008 publicity stunt, the Red Sox broke all of their established rules to retire the number of Johnny Pesky who never has and never will be elected to the Hall of Fame. By then, he was at a very advanced age and it was around the time the Red Sox kicked him off the field for fear he'd get hurt by a line drive. It was was simply planned as a moneymaker but rendered the other retired numbers meaningless. Pesky was a great American but a marginal player. If they wanted to honor him, a memorial to the players who served in WW II would have been more appropriate.
Look at Pesky's numbers again
Look at Pesky's numbers again, he was a legitimate MVP candidate in his best couple of years, and in 1946 he was probably one of the five best players in baseball, with Ted Williams and Stan Musial the only two guys that year that you could definitively say were better. Yeah, he's well short of the hall on the published numbers, but if you give him credit for the three prime years he missed for WWII(the year before and the year after his missed time were his two best seasons), you can argue that he's a borderline Hall of Famer, with a comparable case to Phil Rizzuto. Hell, if you give any sort of war credit, he was almost certainly a better player than Jim Rice, making him not even the worst player with a retired number. Hardly a marginal player.
Marginal players don't finish
Marginal players don't finish 3rd and 4th in MVP voting in consecutive seasons played (1942, 1946).
Regardless
There's more to having your number retired than what you did on the field. The guy dedicated his life to the Red Sox and was around the team for nearly all of it. Nobody on the Red Sox can wear number 42, but Jackie Robinson hit exactly 0 HR for the Sox. It's what he did in life that makes him worthy of a retired number in every ballpark.
Jackie Robinson?
I thought the Sox retired Mo Vaughn's number when he left down, since he was beloved by the team so much.
(and yes, I do know why the number was retired, which is the same reason Vaughn wore it.)