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Two more arrested in West Roxbury pipeline protest
By adamg on Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:51am
Resist the West Roxbury Pipeline reports two of its members were arrested on Washington Street just north of the Dedham line this morning after they blocked construction of Algonquin Gas Transmission's high-pressure natural-gas pipeline. Police took them in as they chanted:
Spectra, Spectra, Go back to Texas. Boston Police, please protect us.
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Gas pipelines needed more than ever!
With Pilgrim Nuke shutting down! It provides 80% of the state's carbon-free electricity.
Can't believe I am agreeing
Can't believe I am agreeing with Mark. But this state needs more nuclear power not less. A big part of why manufacturing is leaving MA is because of very expensive electricity costs.
Well, that or more pipe lines
Well, that or more pipe lines. NG is a pretty clean energy source on its own, and should be dirt cheap (like it is in the rest of the country).
natural gas
Natural gas is methane, worse than CO2 for global warming. Fracked natural gas has radon, benzene, and a whole host of other dangerous pollutants in it. Not so clean.
The West Roxbury Lateral is being built in a residential neighborhood and next to an actively blasting quarry. Shut off valves in the event of a leak/rupture are miles apart. Picture the devastation and loss of life.
And...While methane is a more
And...While methane is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2, there is 200 times more CO2 in the atmosphere. So the amount of global warming that methane contributes is 28% of the global warming that CO2 contributes.
And since 1998 methane emissions in the US have been falling. Methane (CH4 natural gas) is commercially valuable... it is a waste of money when it cannot be sold; which is why at least producers (frackers) have every incentive to plug leaks. At the local level, there are no incentives or penalties to fix all of the leaks under city streets.
State's going Canadian.
http://www.bostonherald.com/business/technology/2015/10/mass_energy_chie...
Canadian hydropower. Not a great solution, considering how many times the lines get hit by hot air balloons, but could be part of a comprehensive policy. Ya, natural gas, easy to adjust the output to meet demand should be a big part of the picture.
Oh, I'm only joking about the balloons. Kinda.
Canadian Hydropower is a waste of money
given the long distances and transmission losses. Money gets lost in transmission. Better to transport gas for power generation closer to where used. Solar works too for a few hours a day in good weather that way too.
BTW, one interesting project on the schedule to be discussed at Hubweek was a foreign energy storage scheme that could work for solar/wind. Sea water was pumped up to an elevated reservoir when power is plentiful, and used to turn generators when power is needed.
Fearmongering as usual
Nice fearmongering straw man there. The methane is burned to produce electricity, turning it into CO2 and water vapor; it's not just up and released into the atmosphere as-is.
Evidence that this kind of thing has happened anywhere, for this kind of pipeline carrying this kind of gas? Or just more what-if fearmongering?
Yes, please google the
Yes, please google the company who is to serve the gas line and read their safety record and what has already happened in another state....
i think you'll find that
i think you'll find that manufacturing jobs leaving is part of a fairly massive country wide trend lol
Overpacked waste pool
The waste pool at Pilgrim has about 3x as much waste as it was designed for. If the water circulation fails or the pool is drained, it will make Fukushima look like a firecracker.
You want more of the same in your backyard?
Cask storage.
Too bad they're not doing it since Yucca was shut down in 2011, after spending about $10 billion on it.
http://www.wbur.org/2011/03/18/plymouth-nuclear-license
FTA: "“Nuclear power has a lot to say for it, but they have not solved the question of the disposal of the waste and that is concerning to me — like it is to many citizens.”
– Gov. Deval Patrick"
"They were built to hold them for about five years but have been used for 39 and are nearly full. But Tarantino says they pass muster with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission...
“And they have constant inspections and they have determined the spent fuel pool storage is safe,” he said.
Charles Forsberg agrees. He’s the head of MIT’s nuclear fuel cycle study.
“In the short term you store them in pools and in long term you put them in dry cask storage,” Forsberg said. “If you store it in those containers nothing is going to happen.”
More info here:
http://www.wbur.org/2013/07/10/pilgrim-nuclear-waste-permit
Maybe, but...
Well, maybe they are needed, but this particular pipeline will go straight through West Roxbury without providing anyone in the area with access to the gas it carries. All the risk, none of the upside.
Well
The people of West Roxbury use natural gas, so an overall increase in supply should benefit them.
(note, I still think the route is unsafe, but some of the arguments against have moved away from that, which is annoying.)
And the same enviro-luddite
And the same enviro-luddite types fighting this pipeline are cheering the shutdown of the nuclear plant. Using their computers and other electronic devices, of course.
i'd imagine
it feels pretty shitty as a cop to arrest people that are asking you to be on their side
It's true. I've been in
It's true. I've been in situations where I've had to arrest people and it's kept me up at night. We are human, despite what others will tell you.
Sincerely,
A Boston Cop
Spectra, Spectra, go back to TX!
Let us Rely on Foreign Multinationals to manage our Energy Delivery (ie - Areva, Schlumberger ... )
Oh, wait: Spectra's TX bureau is owned by a Canadian holding, isn't it.
So Confused.
OH yeah...those canucks
Are tons worse than Syrians aren't they?
?
n/t
Don't know...
...never played Syria for the Stanley Cup.