Early voting jest
Sigh, as I feared when family members returned from early voting in Boston, all those ballots will be treated as absentee ones come Tuesday. That is, they will arrive in masses of envelopes inside larger envelopes for the wardens and clerks to process.
Our training for the recent primary included a promise that Elections would be able to process voters from the 255 precincts via smart computer tech. That would have meant fewer ballots for each precinct to handle. But no...
Don't be alarmed if your clerk or warden steps to the check-in table at each voting lull (should there be any) to rattle off a batch of voter names and addresses, then repeats the process to check each voter out before feeding the two pages of the ballot into the scanner. We'll try to do this so that it minimizes congestion.
The precinct where I'm warden has nearly 1,900 registered voters. Sec'y Galvin's has reported 11% to 15% or more are early voting. That would mean nearly 300 such ballots. That does not include the several dozen absentee ones. Thus, the potential for gumming up the works.
For the curious:
- Yes, we have to read out the address and name of each absentee or early voter and the worker checking them in has to repeat that info once (and only once). State law requires it in case any observer has one of the six reasons to challenge the validity of the ballot.
- No, we won't know how any particular voter chooses. After checking out the ballot, we batch remove the ballots from their envelopes, separating them from the identifying envelope, turning them face down for the candidate side of page one, and feed them one after another into the scanner.
- No, there is no in situ fix for ballot spoilage, like overvoting a race. In live voting, you can spoil two ballots and get a total of three chances. If early or absentee ballots are spoiled, we override them at the machine with a pencil or pen inserted into the scanner opening for this purpose. The scanner will count the ballots and record as much good info as it can.
Also, to disappoint the conspiracy minded, I warn that you may see your warden temporarily halt voting to mess with the machine. With two very long pages and the absentee and early voting returns already pre-folded, the ballot box is likely to fill and even jam.
Wardens should announce when they have to tend to the innards of the ballot box. They open them and tamp down or rearrange the ballots so they continue to feed. Maybe once or twice during the day, the warden will remove the ballots, place them in USED BALLOTS envelopes and place those envelopes in the gray ballot box that the police officer takes to Elections at the end of the night.
By the bye, that gray box goes into a double-locked in City Hall for 10 days, the period in which candidates or question proponent can ask for a hand recount. Like a parody of the Monty Python song, every ballot is sacred. We count them before handing them out, we keep and record each spoiled one, we count voted ones via the scanner, we record each provisional ballot (sent to Elections each in its separate envelope), we tediously record each write-in by name and office (even cartoon characters), and we count each unused ballot at the end of the 15-hour day. Finally, the clerk finishes the night by filling in elaborate spreadsheets accounting for each ballot.
Also, the check-in and check-out books must agree with each other. The ballot totals must balance, including starting, absentee, early voting, spoiled, provisional, and unused. The end of day is up to 90 minutes of counting, recording and computation.
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Fabulous post, massmarrier! But...
...can you PLEASE, after the election is all over, put out a list of all the write-ins you saw? We will need a good laugh, you know?
You'd be surprised
Actually, a certain dark mouse associated with an amusement park (several actually) has, over time, garnered enough votes to have been president several times over. He, along with his duck friend, and even Elvis have all appeared.
Funny... maybe. Sad... definitely. This is a wasted vote. While the voter may think that somewhere, someone will view this and care that they felt the need to protest a lack of choices, the reality is that no one will notice or care.
Often the cartoon characters are listed as "Miscellaneous Other" and left at that. The senior staff have enough to do in the background and don't need to deal with that, but it happens.
The post by the warden is a brief summary of what the people do, who by the way are not regular employees of the City of Boston. They are your neighbors who volunteered to assure the integrity of the vote. Yes, they are compensated at minimum wage. They will start at 6 Am to set up the polling place and put on the finishing touches, count blank ballots, assure machinery is working OK, and remain for the next 15 hours. Yes they do get breaks.
They will also help people to change addresses, submit provisional ballots (hand counted when you have voter registration issues), assist the elderly and disabled, and sometimes take a load of crap.
They also place themselves on the front lines to testify in state or federal court if something goes wrong. Most people think it's a bunch of old people sitting on their ass all day. Well, the City is always looking for more people to do this. Sign up and give it a try then tell me what you think.
I read on Facebook that the early voting at Roslindale processed 1500 people and that was in just 6 hours, plus the extra hour-plus to make sure everyone in line at 8 PM had the chance to vote, then the counting and clean-up. Most polling places will process less than that during a presidential election event through the whole 13 hour cycle on election day.
Not as easy as it looks.
I'll try to remember
Be aware this is Steve Murphy's home precinct. Several people write in his name for numerous statewide offices. We do get comic and cartoon characters too. Perhaps a few of the I-can't-stand-any-nominee types will get creative for POTUS this time.
Fun Couple (for real)
I ran into Rob Consalvo and his wife eating at the Fairmount Grille (is that "e" necessary?). He noted that in the last Presidential someone wrote in his name. His wife asked him, "Why do they hate America?" They both laughed at the memory and don't seem to take themselves too seriously.
I was not warden at his precinct down the hill. I can't verify that, but I believe it.
Cute story, massmarrier
I had a couple of degrees of separation from Rob growing up but he and his family were quite nice. This story doesn't surprise me.
I'm curious if real people (not cartoon characters) are written in are they notified if possible? Did Rob hear it informally or was he informed?
Can the actual account of write-ins be seen anywhere?
Thanks for your work. Well done.
Lackaday
Write-ins generally are feel-good moments for the writer-in and written-in. We have a system where write-in campaigns must register with the commonwealth to count.
A precinct's clerk or warden has to record each write-in in the clerk's book at the end of the voting day. Therein is a page for each office. In the event of primaries, there is a page for each office for each ballot (party or political affiliation with a ballot in that election). There are lines for the write-in names and blocks beside each line that the clerk darkens with a marker or pen. Then at the end of each line, the clerk also records the number for each write-in in red (another state law).
The clerk's book goes to Elections along with the ballots and sundry other materials that needs to be available if there is disagreement with the scanner's memory card or in the event of a recount. Other special materials need processing, like researching each provisional ballot to see if it counts and entering new or changed data on the voter registration cards.
Finally, anything remarkable during the day should become an entry in the several pages at the front of the clerk's book. Some are housekeeping, like the need for a letter opener (for absentee and early voting envelopes) or new ink for the scanner's printout. Others might include a disturbance or complaint. Elections is pretty good at reading and correcting those.
Odd -why would anyone need to
Odd -why would anyone need to write-up Stephen Murphy for a statewide election. He's spent the past 10 years unning for every statewide election.
Thank you
both for your explanation and for all the hard work you'll be doing on Tuesday.
Impressive
From the time I moved up here I was always very impressed with how well the mechanics of voting are handled in Mass. In Pennsylvania, you'd push a button, hit 'confirm' and then that's it. Here there's obvious and conspicuous retention of records and meticulous bookkeeping, from the time you check in to the time you check out.
The only thing that's missing is being required to flash a government ID when you walk into the door...
Not really missing
Chances are, your poll workers know you by now! My sons had to flash theirs when they voted the first time, but the rest of the time ours are flipping the book to the alphabetical page for our street as we approach.
You don't waste a lot of resources chasing after an exceedingly rare outcome in any case.
My poll workers have never known me
Give them the address and they find it then ask your name. End of story. In MA in big precincts.
It's simple but kind of brilliant. I assume they check off your name so I guess you could go in at 7am and vote as someone else if you know their name and address but who the hell is going to do that with a cop in the building?
It's the one flaw
You can't vote twice as yourself, you can't vote twice as anyone else, but if you really wanted to cause mischief, you could vote once as someone else several times. It will be detected when the real voter comes in, but it won't be reversible and it won't be prevented.
In a small town or in a place without much turnover Swirly's a hundred percent right about knowing your neighbor, but anywhere else it's perfectly possible for some guy to make the rounds in places where voter turnout is low or where people take their sweet time and commit a little casual fraud. And it's something that you can fix with a voter ID req that doesn't depend on the poll worker being on his or her game and asking for it when you come in the first time.
Yeah Lets Emulate A Bunch Of Racists
Nice conspiracy theory you got there.
BS
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Everyone's a racist
Which conspiracy theory is that? That it's possible to make mischief in an election when ID isn't required of everyone?
Oh.. you mean the one where busses full of women or binders full of illegal immigrants are all going to vote yes on Question Six? You must be looking for another forum.
Rampant voter fraud
Is a conspiracy theory.
SwirlyLogic(TM)
Rampant voter fraud is a conspiracy theory therefor pointing out any potential attack vectors or vulnerabilities in the election process is crazy and racist.
Tell me, back when Diebold (whose corporate board conspicuously donated to the Republican Party) was rolling out its first electronic voting machines in the early 2000's, were concerns about security of the electoral process also racist and crazy? Or was dissent patriotic back then for some reason?
Your vulnerabilities are obvious
Now furnish evidence that these are actual problems.
Logic isn't nearly as important as factual evidence. Otherwise, we would pay people a lot more to study philosophy.
An evidence-based approach
is bound to be reactive. You'll always be planning for the last war.
Foresight and anticipation, on the other hand, live in a whole different space all together. We don't pay philosophers much, but we do pay mathematicians and theoretical computer scientists a lot.
It's no flaw
It's true -- you could get cute and vote in each precinct or ward in the state, subject to time constraints. Let's say you're really well organized and have a chauffeur -- maybe you could post 4 votes an hour. Polls are open for 13 hours, that's 52 votes.
Good for you. You broke the law 51 or 52 times, with a penalty of up to 5 years in prison and/or $10,000 fine. Now, tell me: which election (in which 52 polling locations are all voting for the same office) did you swing with 52 votes? Hint: almost certainly, none.
Races are rarely decided by that few a number of votes -- but if you get caught, you're going to spend five years rotting.
The risk-reward of single-handed voter fraud isn't anywhere near worth it. That's why we don't see it.
P.S. Remember: the poll worker might not recognize you, but she might recognize "Mark Spencer, 14 Elm St" and know that you ain't him.
Wordplay wordplay
It's a hard-to-exploit flaw, but it's still a flaw that could be fixed by requiring ID. And my contention about high turnover areas stands. You couldn't very well impersonate the guy who's friends with the election lady, but you could in principle impersonate some kid who lives in a quarter of an alcove in Allston.
Like you said: hard to do and probably won't swing an election. Like I said: still possible to cause mischief.
Interesting
The man who has yet to provide any evidence that there is any problem whatsoever, and is engaging entirely in hypothetical talking points supported by zero factual evidence, is now accusing somebody of wordplay.
Wow.
What evidence do you want?
Do you want me to film myself voting under someone else's name to show you that it's possible or will you pretend to be a thinking human being and acknowledge that not having to show ID at the polls leaves the process open to spoofing just like your phone or your email are open to 'collection calls' by the 'IRS.' Those scam calls are also a low yield operation mind you, since just like the poll worker, you're not going to fall for it that often. People still try.
You have posited a theory
Fortunately, you have yet to demonstrate that voter fraud is prevalent enough to warrant any response.
You might want to read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/09/7-papers-4-govern...
People have actually investigated the possibility of fraud, and, well, it isn't worth the risk of disenfranchising anyone over, to put it mildly.
Most of the stories we hear? People with multiple addresses voting at all of them. Who does that? Make a guess - but they tend to get caught AND IT IS STILL VERY RARE.
Talking points are not reality, and collapse given the facts and evidence and systematic investigation. You are essentially saying "BUT there MUST be a BOGEYMAN under the BED" and then "But Bogeymen are theoretically possible, so we have to deprive people of constitutional freedoms JUST IN CASE.". Sorry, but it isn't worth our resources or denying people their rights under the constitution.
Creating a massive amount of false negatives predicated on a hypothetical fear of an extremely rare false positive does not a democracy make.
You're worked up aren't you
Not all states have the same amount process the original post described. Not all places have paper ballots that can be counted at every stage from printing to distribution to collection to counting. They use ID reqs to make up the difference. That's not denying anyone anything, that's living in a world where you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Then again, in SwirlyLand, locking your windows is racist because burglaries are rare and many of them talk their way into your house anyway.
Known but verified
Our laws here do not allow for routine display of photo ID. We are more likely to get snippy comments about how we know them by sight. Another election law requires that we have to ask for address and name. If I'm on the clerk's book, I ask abutting neighbors and family members. I've explained the requirement to numerous people I know.
On the other hand, I, my clerk and inspectors do know most voters by sight. n theory they could try a double-voting ploy. I've never seen that happen and believe it is extremely rare or nonexistent. Hypotheticals make great barroom or coffee shop idle chat though.
Thank you
Thank you for your service!
Votes for Ballot Questions can be viewed on the Back of Ballots.
Votes for Ballot Questions can be viewed on the Back of Voters' Ballots. How are the Votes on the Back of Voters' Ballots kept from folks opening envelopes with Voters' Names?
None of our business
Poll workers:
We batch process the absentee and now early voting ballots, separating each from its envelope with the voter name and address. As we feed bunches into the scanner, we have no idea whose ballot is whose. (And honestly, with the volume, we don't care.)
Each provisional ballot gets its own envelope to send to Elections for research the next day. The voter puts the completed ballot in envelope and seals it. Elections folk downtown look at the accompanying paperwork to see whether the voter really is registered and thus that ballot will count. Here again, they separate the ballot and identifying information before seeing the ballot.
Note too that when the scanner refuses to process a ballot, poll workers are trained to look at the wee LCD screen on the machine and not the ballot. It will display a message like the ballot is blank or over-voted. The voter can then look at the ballot and may ask for help in identifying the problems, but the poll worker otherwise is not supposed to look at the ballot.
The most typical problem is voting for too many folk for an office. In that event, the clerk or warden will mark SPOILED on the ballot and have an inspector provide a replacement. Sure the secret ballot is huge for many voters (I, on the other hand, would happy show or tell anyone how I voted). Poll workers though really don't care how someone votes.
Do the register books come
Do the register books come with a notation that a given person early-voted?
Nifty codes
Yes, EV will be beside the name of each early voter. For an inexplicable to me reason, these are also marked with an X in the checkbox, indicating they have voted. The absentee-voters get, of course, AV beside their names.
Once we check these voters in for EV or AV, the inspector at the table puts an X by the name to indicate a completed vote. For this first go at POTUS early voting, we'll have to put a second X by the EV ones.
A major purpose of this process is to ensure each person can only vote once. If we have them in the book as EV or AV, we have to call Elections to verify they have received those ballots. Occasionally people forget they did absentee vote. More commonly they received an absentee ballot and suddenly decided they could vote in person. In those cases, we verify with Elections and handle it on both their computer end and our check-in and check-out books in writing (and a note in the clerk's book)).
These are
Correct me if I'm wrong
You've clearly established yourself as the expert massmarrier but I seem to recall that with absentee voting if you happen to find yourself available to vote at the actual polls on election day you are required to go and vote at the polls but with early voting your vote is final. Is this possibly the reason why EV has an X already filled in but AV doesn't?
Personally I think that early voters should have the option to go to the actual polls on election day, discard their early ballot, and cast a new one should they change their minds in light of new info (though I understand that this would be annoying for poll workers as they'd have to wait for the polls to close before processing any early ballots).
Only four "clawback" states
MA is not one of the four states that let voters recast an absentee ballot. We have no legal mechanism for that.
Moreover, once a voter is checked in and the ballot scanned, there's no way to reverse that There is no identifying information n the ballot, even in some poor schlub were assigned to go through one or two thousand scanned ballots to find a particular one to void.
Our trainer was also puzzled about the printed X by the EV voters (and not by AV ones). Our votes are counted when the voter is checked in and the ballot scanned. Then it's done and irreversible. For absentee ballots, once you return it, you've voted; for early voting, once you leave the polling place, you've voted. No backsies.
For primaries, in addition to the X when someone votes, there is the party/political designation code. Over half our voters are unenrolled. They love to shout, "I'm independent!" That has no legal meaning here where that is unenrolled. Voters enrolled in recognized parties have to take the ballot of that party for a primary. The unenrolled ones and those without a related party or designation ballot must choose one of the available ballots.
No matter how many primaries they've participated in, a surprising number of unenrolled voters ask for or demand a ballot that includes all the candidates from all the ballots. The party-primary winnowing process doesn't suit their ideal.
Many older people remember how it used to be long ago that choosing a ballot caused you to be enrolled in that party, unless you also filled in and mailed or handed in a voter registration card, checked UNENROLLED. That automatic changing hasn't been the case in many years, but it is the most common Q&A during primaries.
When Elections gets a primary check-in book back, they do check the ballots chosen, but not per voter. They add up totals per precinct to double-check the number of each ballot used against the clerk's book count. Again, every ballot is sacred around here.
Consider me corrected
I could've sworn mass used to let you recast an absentee ballot on election day...
No matter how many primaries
Which is exactly how it should be done. Requiring a person to choose a party ballot UNFAIRLY RESTRICTS their choices before they even get into the ballot box. ALL voters should be considered unenrolled, and ALL candidates should be on a single primary ballot.
Antithesis
That is antithetical to the point of primaries. They are party primaries, meant to reduce the choice in the general election for each party or political designation.
In many places, only those enrolled in a party can vote in that party's primary. The give-me-all-the-choices-and-I-decide-for-everyone really is what a general election is about...after the primary has winnowed the field.
The poll workers at early
The poll workers at early voting sites should try explaining the process this well. I heard lots of voters at each location I visited who were VERY upset about the name label on the envelope. They feel like it's not a secret ballot.
Good comment
I'll pass that request along. That makes sense. The head trainer, Marty, is looking to revise the manual.
The best part
I early voted and did think it was odd to have my name on the outside of the envelope containing my vote. On the other hand, it's MORE important that all those early votes stay uncounted until Nov 8th. Why? Well if one person knows how the early voting is going and tells someone and word spreads then that could totally affect the outcome....Legal Pot is winning! Run more "Pot is evil" ads! etc.
I'll take the tiny risk that someone would see how I voted in exchange for a fair and legal election.