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Voting fraud discovered!
By perruptor on Wed, 04/06/2022 - 5:50am
An egregious case of voting fraud has surfaced, and I am shocked - shocked - to learn that it was committed by a Republican. Matt Mowers, a former aide to Chris Christie and then Trump, is running for Congress in New Hampshire. He denies any wrongdoing.
...saying he was “proud to work for President Trump as the GOP establishment was working to undermine his nomination and accepted a job with his campaign in 2016, registered to vote and casted my vote in accordance with the law...At no point in the statement does Mowers deny that he voted twice in the 2016 primary process.
Mowers is clearly using the current Republican definition of "in accordance with the law," which is congruent with "I felt like it."
Many states have laws prohibiting voting twice. Here is the applicable Federal law:
(e) Voting more than once(1) Whoever votes more than once in an election referred to in paragraph (2) shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(2) The prohibition of this subsection applies with respect to any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the United States Senate, Member of the United States House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands, or Resident Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.
(3) As used in this subsection, the term "votes more than once" does not include the casting of an additional ballot if all prior ballots of that voter were invalidated, nor does it include the voting in two jurisdictions under section 10502 of this title, to the extent two ballots are not cast for an election to the same candidacy or office.
Note: Adam did not post this story, so don't yell at him.
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Magoo sez
Magoo woke up this morning with The tune to Cher’s all time hit “Do you believe in life after love after love after love” in Magoo’s noggin. Which makes Magoo think, “noggin” is such a cool word. Magoo.
Don’t know if the irrelevant
Don’t know if the irrelevant post about a NH voting fraud case or the brain melting Magoo comment is worse.
Slow news day in Somerville
Slow news day in Somerville
How is this relevant to the Boston area?
Massachusetts is not either of the two states where he cast his ballot.
FWIW
A common call of the GOP is to claim cities are cesspools of voter fraud with thinly vailed racist undertones. (See also: Wu's "protesters")
The truth is that voter fraud is extremely uncommon and more likely than not happening in rural areas by GOP operatives themselves.
When people accuse Boston/Wu/etc of fraudulent elections, this is a nice retort, not that the GOP gives a shit about hypocrites regardless.
Hypocrisy is a feature not a bug
Souls to the polls, mail-in and early voting for people who can’t take a random Tuesday off work, voting machines that report votes for democrats — definitely fraud.
Republicans like Mark Meadows and this amateur literally breaking the law? Oh that’s, uh, “in accordance with the law.”
To be fair, if the “it’s only legitimate when I win” reasoning wasn’t so nakedly clear, their dumbass base couldn’t follow it.
Maybe because you can expect to hear constantly
about the ridiculous myth of voter fraud from this asshole?
Whoa!
This:
is a relief! Whew!
In any event, however, it's no surprise that this guy did what he did, if one gets the drift.
Any thread
That draws Magoo and Notfromrussia's attention away from the rest of us is a worthwhile endeavour.
Massachusetts Narrowly Avoids Voter Fraud!
New Hampshire is perilously close. We need to be warned when the barbarians are at the gates.
How much more warning do you
How much more warning do you need? Their motto is "Live Free or Die". Surely that means New Hampshirites can vote as many times as they please.
What they should really be worrying about is the upcoming invasion of Massachusettsans to regain their lost territory. Our motto is “Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem” after all. This would make room for another state to join the union and we wouldn't even have to change the flag. /s
BOT: To misquote Jerry Seinfeld "What is up with these double dipping Republicans?"
Is New Hampshire off-topic?
Is New Hampshire off-topic? Southern New Hampshire is considered a part of the Boston suburbs.
Didn't you know?
Boston is the capital of New England. As the sovereign rulers, we care about all in our domain (well, except for most of Connecticut).
back a few years ago...
Wasn't the Orange One claiming a bunch of Massholes were bused up to NH to vote for Clinton illegally? So we have that connection.
This may be legal?
Sleazy? Sure. Legal? Maybe. (IANAL!)
Let's say you live in New Hampshire on February 9, 2016. You are a resident and registered to vote in New Hampshire, and do so in the primary. A few days later you pack up and move to New York.
New York requires that you register 25 days before the election (April 19) and that you are a resident for 30 days prior to the election date. So as long as you move by March 20, you can register to vote in New York.
So the question becomes whether the New York and New Hampshire primaries are legally considered the same election. I think there's an argument which could be made that each state's election (primary or caucus) is a "separate election" and that, as long as you were registered to vote, you could vote in multiple primaries.
No such luck in the general, since it's all the same day, although someone could make the argument that in the general election you are not actually voting for the presidential candidate, but for a slate of electors, and that the law is vague regarding this.
TL;DR this guy maybe should be prosecuted to have an example made of him, and make him sweat, but he probably would use an argument like this.
Suppose there was no presidential primary, only Senate and House
perhaps for this year. If I live in New York and vote in that state's June 28 primary, then move to Massachusetts and vote in the September 6 primary here, have I violated the law? I think section (3) says that I haven't, since they are different jurisdictions with different offices and candidates.
Even in the presidential primary
You're generally voting for delegates to a party's state or national convention, rather than for the candidate him/herself.
But I don't think it would be hard to make a legal case that "New Hampshire 2016 presidential primary election" is a different election than "New Jersey 2016 presidential primary election."
Is it a good look for the candidate? Nope.
Some of that legal argument
Some of that legal argument may hinge on if he actually did move or make changes in his legal residence. Did he make other changes to his taxes, license, vehicle registration to show that he was changing his residence?
Or did he just have two homes and register to vote at each one? If he was registered to vote in both simultaneously with no other action, then he likely was breaking the law.
Matt Mowers, not Bill Moyers
Moyers under the first quote;
"Moyers is clearly using ..."
Bill Moyers would have been great.
Alas Mowers cut it down.
Yes
Thanx.Fixed.