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It's Healey vs. Florida Man's 'iron fist' for governor
By adamg on Tue, 09/06/2022 - 10:38pm
Maura Healey will take on Geoff Diehl, the 2020-skeptical favorite of the Short-Fingered Vulgarian of Mar-a-Lago, who defeated another Republican who was willing to allow that Biden actually won.
She'll be running with Salem Mayor Kim Driscoll, who won the primary for lieutenant governor.
In other statewide races, Bill Galvin the Eternal won the Democratic primary for secretary of state, while former Boston City Councilor Andrea Campbell is winning in the race to replace Healey as attorney general.
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A vote for Diehl is a vote for white nationalism
The Diehl campaign and his online supporters are a cesspool of white supremacy.
Diehl may not be a flaming racist, but he is certainly the favorite candidate of flaming racists. Anyone voting for Diehl endorses GOP's pivot towards white supremacy and homophobic, transphobic, and misogynistic bigotry.
Couldn't have said it better
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thankfully we have the Golden Hairpiece doing God's work and informing us all of the way Diehl will "rule" us into submission.
Voted against Diehl
This independent pulled an R ballot just to vote againt the election-denying Diehl.
This "unenrolled", too.
This "unenrolled", too.
You both
Give me hope.
Goodbye, Mass. GOP
You've had a good run, and some solid accomplishments (such as Romneycare), but by fully embracing Trumpism, you've reached the end of the line in Massachusetts.
Maybe a new sane, conservative, non-fascist party can emerge from the ashes, because a one-party state isn't really what Massachusetts needs, either.
I agree that a one-party
I agree that a one-party state isn't what we need. I think there's room for a centrist or center-left party to challenge the center-right Democratic party.
Not yet
In theory I agree, but I would prefer implementing ranked-choice voting before we reach the point of a serious third-party contender. I'm still kind of sore that Mass voted that down. I'm not sure when it will come back on the ballot, but until then, let's unify behind the non-fascist.
Ranked choice
I was in favor of it as well, but the ad campaigns promoting it really didn't help. They should have found a better agency who could have presented it better I think.
Overton windows
You’re correct that we shouldn’t only have the US Democratic Party to choose from, but it would be great to see actual leftists in office though.
"Gus Hall isn't walking through that door"
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"Such as Romneycare"
You mean that regressive tax hike which redistributed wealth to corporations?
Looks like DiZoglio wins Dem primary for Auditor
Galvin will be the only male on the Democratic statewide ticket.
And thanks Shannon Liss-Riordan for that one last mailer today. Spent $9M (and counting) to lose by 15 percentage points.
15 Percentage Points
Re: The AG race: It’s interesting that Palfrey has 15% of the vote-currently 97,398 votes. That feels like a significant number for a candidate who publicly ended his campaign and endorsed Campbell.
Early and mail-in voters
Palfrey withdrew on August 30, just a week before Election Day. By that time, mail-in ballots had been available for weeks, and there had been four days of early voting.
This illustrates why, if we have early and mail-in voting, we also need ranked-choice voting.
Mail in Voting
It will be interesting to see the numbers of mailed ballots. If the mail “turnout” was large, then the Aug 27 endorsements of Liss-Riordan by Warren, Wu and Janey were too late to have an impact. Wu and Janey both made appearances with Liss-Riordan on Tuesday. I saw a report earlier last night that Campbell had 70% of the vote in Boston.
Also non-impactful: the 2-3 dozen text messages I got between Sunday-Tuesday on behalf of various candidates.
Speaking of burning money
The Ranked Choice Voting 2020 Committee spent $10M to pass a RCV Initiative - the opposition spent $8475. It was defeated by almost 10 percentage points.
I don’t understand the no votes
I don’t see how anybody who understands RCV and who does not directly benefit from entrenched party machinery could reasonably oppose it. “Let’s say your favorite doesn’t win and there’s a runoff; who would you vote for in that?” isn’t hard to understand. What defeated RCV was “as a voter I’m lazy as shit and am not going to bother learning about it.” Willful ignorance.
Yes
Not only that, but it prevents situations like primaries like:
leftish candidate A 26%
leftish candidate B 24%
leftish candidate C 22%
centerish candidate D 28%
In the current system, D would win, despite the votes and candidate pool showing that the community supports leftish policies.
But in ranked-choice, A could potentially win.
And that is why people voted against it
Ironically, the reality should be that ranked choice voting would result in more moderate candidates, it was kind of packaged as a means to ensure that less moderate candidates win.
As for a real world example, I give you Mayor Eric Adams, the not leftish candidate in New York City in 2021.
"Should"
Why? Because, in your view, that's the natural choice of any sensible person?
Consider what "moderate" means these days. It's right of center and acquiescent with hard right.
Yes, should
The same would apply to the right as it would to the left.
Yet the assumption is made by the left that everyone is on their side (echo chamber in full effect) so they should dominate, hence the failure of the campaign for ranked choice voting. Again, Mayor Eric Adams is proof of what actual political scientists claim, that RCV would stop a drifting of political discourse to the “true believers” which is something the rest of us fear.
what?
The most generous meaning I can draw from this sentence is that politicians on the left think their ideas are good and right and therefore try to, um, craft policy around those ideas.
I had no idea this was specifically a leftist quality! But it would certainly explain the utter lack of meaningful policy originating on the right in the last 40 years.
Um, no
The idea, as you clearly points out, is that of course everyone agrees with them, which is a fallacy.
The big example I can think of is the state rep race in my area back in 2018. It was 2 “progressives” against the incumbent. Supporters of RCV would look at this an assume all the votes for the third place candidate would go to the second place candidate, thereby knocking out the less than progressive first place candidate. The reality might have been that the third place candidate, of Nigerian descent, got votes based on his race (to be clear, he was a great candidate, and in RCV would have gotten some support from me) so his voters may have split between the top 2 candidates or perhaps the voters would have bulleted their votes since the white candidates remaining did not appeal to them.
In short, voters look at a lot of things, so a first preference for a progressive could lead to a second preference for, once again, Eric Adams, a moderate.
That's exactly what happened in Maine
That's exactly what happened in Maine. LePage won with something like 33% of the vote. And the people of Maine, not being happy with that, enacted RCV by referendum. And the legislature, being self-serving weasels, found a way to throw it out. So the people enacted it by referendum again. And the legislature, being self-serving weasels with no integrity, tried to throw it out again. But the people prevailed.
https://www.fairvote.org/maine_ballot_initiative
Brewster's Millions
"Why would they spend all that money unless they planned on stealing it back?"
With the Mass. GOP selecting
With the Mass. GOP selecting Diehl, I'm officially done with hearing from anybody about "the Mass. GOP is different from the national party; it's socially liberal but fiscally conservative; it's a necessary counterpoise to what would otherwise be one-party D rule."
The answer...
...is for the Massachusetts Democratic Party to split into a Democratic Party and a Progressive Party, or a Democratic Party and a Center Party.
Charlie Baker could have brought about the latter split by renouncing the GOP and running for reelection as an independent. Why didn't he?
Charlie Baker could have
Because he seems to (bizarrely) think he could run for president as as a republican. He's presumably hoping that after Trump has burned the party to the ground, he might have a shot.
It's too bad because, as you point out, Charlie could've made a real impact by running for Gov as an independent and then starting a moderate party here in MA.
Not running (at least not yet)
Baker has emphatically denied he's going to run for president in 2024. Of course, pols have done that and then "changed their minds", but the way campaigns work these days, it's hard to see him having enough time to do that about-face and still have a viable candidacy.
Same here
n/t
Need to get rid of Lyons first
With a whacko as the leader, whackos follow
"He'll rule your state with an iron fist" - TFG
With friends like Donald John Trump who needs enemies?
Rule with an Iron Fist? DJT clearly failed to read the room that is Massachusetts. The Former Guy still has a hard-on for strong men.
How much will "Aluminum Foil Fist" Diehl
lose by? Thirty points? Forty?
Guessing more toward 25-30 points
Trying to decide if any GOP congressional or statewide candidate will break 40%.
Diehl simply being the
Diehl simply being the nominee should alarm everyone. Hitler was considered a joke until he won. Trump was considered a joke until he won. MTG, Boebert, etc. I don't have faith in the general population's ability to make any sort of intelligent decision.
If Healey wins...
...she'll be the first sitting Attorney General to be elected Governor since 1852.
in Massachusetts.
in Massachusetts.
Blanking the ballot in November
Sadly, I'll be blanking the ballot in November. Not voting for Diehl (for obvious reasons) and not voting for Driscoll.
What's wrong with Driscoll?
I felt like there was very little difference between the three Lieutenant Governor candidates.
Separate elections
In Massachusetts you vote separately for Governor and Lieutenant Governor; they're not running on a singular ticket like happens with the President and Vice President. So if you have some axe to grind with Driscoll, you can ignore that and still vote for Healy for governor
This is true only in primaries
In the general election, you vote for both together.
You dislike Driscoll enough
You dislike Driscoll enough to stand back and risk electing a white nationalist as governor?
Another race of note
Rob "Bucket Bangin'" Burke easily beat Hamilton Rodrigues to win the GOP nomination for the D8 congressional seat, 71-29. Burke is one of the Catherine Vitale crew that protested outside Mayor Wu's home.
https://www.masslive.com/politics/2022/09/massachusetts-primary-election...
Well...
At least Stephen Lynch has a name of the guy he's gonna smoke in a few weeks.
That being the case,
I'll actually vote for Lynch for the first time ever. He's not my favorite Democrat, and the seat is always safe, so I generally only vote for primary challengers when he has one. But Burke needs to be thoroughly repudiated, so I can get comfortable with a vote for Lynch on that basis.
Florida man?
As someone who grew up in Florida, I don't think Trump counts as a Florida man. He's just another one of those New York snowbirds who moved down permanently when he got old.
It's true. Florida Man may be a hilarious
stereotype, but Mango Mussolini is so awful it is unfair to the stereotype.
The original "iron fist" was...
Nikolay Yezhov, who headed Stalin's secret police during the great purges of 1937-38. "Yehzovaya rukavitsa" means "mailed fist" in Russian.
Da.
But with DeJoy's postal service, mailed fist not arrive in time.