Nobody puts Garth Brooks in a corner, certainly not the Garden
TD Garden officials found themselves before the Boston Licensing Board today, apologizing for being helpless in the face of a force like Garth Brooks.
More specifically, they were there to answer a police citation for "failure to disperse patrons in a safe, timely and orderly fashion" on the night of Jan. 24. Police say the area around and under the Garden - in particular, North Station - was so full of people exiting one Garth Brooks concert and people waiting to enter the next that the result was pedestrian gridlock that kept innocent commuters just trying to get home on commuter rail from getting to their trains on time.
BPD Sgt. Det. Robert Mulvey's citation referred specifically to the Garden's west side, where he said the arena had just one staffer trying to direct ticketholders for the late show to go to the Legends Way entrance on the east side. But he said he doubted more staffers would have helped much: "I don't know how anybody could've managed that."
He said the solution is fairly simple: In the future, the Garden should allow more time between such back to back concerts.
Garden officials agreed that's a great idea but said artists gonna artist: They try and they try to convince entertainers to adhere to schedules and then they just don't and there's nothing they can do. In this case, they said Brooks started his 7 p.m. show at 7:30 p.m. and then, as attorney Stephen Miller said, he and the audience were "grooving" so much that he added a couple of encore songs at the end. And at that point, you're not going to just yank the artist off stage, because then you have 15,000 angry people on your hands, he said.
"Artists are going to pretty much do what they think is best for their business or performance that night," Miller said. "Unfortunately, there's no negotiating," Garden security director James Mayall said. The Garden had 271 staffers on hand that night - in addition to numerous BPD detail officers and had gone through a practice run earlier in the week, officials said.
Mulvey was not happy with the answer.
"The thing that puzzles me is that the artist (and his entourage) apparently gets the last word and trumps public safety," he said. "It just seems to be all for Garth Brooks's convenience."
The board decides Thursday what action, if any, to take.
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Don't Blame Garth
He was groovin'
Public safety?
Commuters missed their trains. That shouldn't be happening. However, that's a "public safety" issue?
Buffalo figured out how to do it
Buffalo had no issues with the same format
http://wivb.com/2015/03/06/thousands-make-smooth-transition-at-garth-bro...
Buffalo's venue
also doesn't have a commuter rail terminal on the first floor. Go to the Garden about 5:30 the night of a Bruins game before they open the gates, and see how quickly you can get past the crowds to access your train. And, oh, add in having to navigate that mess they call a "waiting room" as well.
Now imagine this scenario with people exiting the Garden at the same time as others are waiting to enter, and you might understand how this could be considered a "public safety" issue.
Might not be a "safety" issue
Might not be a "safety" issue, but sure would be a financial hit to anyone who missed the last train of the night and had to shell out for a cab.
No, it shouldn't...
They should have left early, or made alternate plans.
You're a tool
I should leave work early or rearrange my whole day because Garth Brooks wants to play a few extra songs during his encore?
You must have a very
You must have a very forgiving boss! If I ever said that to mine, or any past employers for that matter, they would think I didn't take my job very seriously. Good for you though!
Exactly.
If this is considered a public safety issue, what about the MBTA's failure to support the public during the month of February 2015 (and beyond..)?
Why are they crying about one evening commute when the MBTA is responsible for ruining an entire month's worth of commutes?
MBTA under jurisdiction of the licensing board, for the win!
That'd clear things right up!
Except that the Licensing Board
would probably order a suspension of service for so many days, which I'm sure T management would gladly accept.
Madonna
How about they just fine Garth Directly?
I mean this is what the UK Gov't did when Madonna was THREE HOURS late getting on stage when she performed a tour a few years ago at Wembley Stadium. Concert goers were there so late, the tube had to stay open late to accommodate all the people. She paid.
Needless to say, she no longer does this. She also did this in Boston at the same tour, same concert I walked out of after 2 hours of waiting. (and said I'd never see her again.. due to the ticket cost and waiting so G-d long)
At least London Transport
did stay open late. Unlike the T's "We will not delay the departure of the last trains to accommodate concertgoers" alert they sent out the morning of the Garth Brooks Friday night concerts.
Steven Miller?
I would rather have heard him play, "Fly Like an Eagle" or "Jungle Love" than Garth whining about his friends in low places.
I like the idea of fining the
I like the idea of fining the artist.
But also, maybe the Garden can't have back to back events? Or maybe it needs giant neon signs directing people to the correct entrances/exits?
Boston can't handle Garth Brooks
In Dublin, they know how to play ball with him- either accept what they allow for shows or just don't come.
And though few if any would appreciate this song based on the fiasco, I liked it.
Pedestrian congestion? Oh the
Pedestrian congestion? Oh the humanity!
Does that mean that Sgt. Det. Robert Mulvey would shit himself if he were to visit Times Square?
MBTA get fined for pedestrian gridlock too?
When hundreds of people were waiting for trains during February?
Should fine the drivers plugging up intersections each day
Thousands of examples of that every day.
Too many people gunning for
Too many people gunning for the same exits in the event if an emergency such as a fire. Shit happens and the rules are there to minimize the damage. So yes it is a safety concern.
Friday Night Provided Fair Warning
I was at the early show in Friday the 23rd. Getting out was a fiasco, particularly from the balcony levels. We were still up on the balcony level at the time the doors were supposed to open for the second show. While I don't know for certain, it seemed some exits were blocked to accomodate the lines of people trying to get in for the late show. People were pushing to try to get out quicker with no where to go. I've been to shows at the Garden before an usually in the "cheap" seats and have never had that experience before. Had there been a real emergency - fire, fight, etc. - it would have been ugly. Ugly enough that I will likely never buy a ticket for a double header show again.
I was at the same show, and
I was at the same show, and wholeheartedly agree, especially since so many people in our section were incredibly, overwhelmingly drunk. It was a pretty scary trip out of there.
the real question
why was Garth Brooks here? why couldn't he have gone to, like, New Hampshire or something?
GARTH BROOKS
Hey DEMO, groove this.
January 24 was a Saturday
While it still sucked for those who had to work use commuter rail, etc., it wasn't as popular a day as a weekday work day.
Missed trains, however, would seriously suck since the MBTA runs about one a day on each line anymore.
Those in medical professions
Those in medical professions and hospitality industries, as well as thousands of others, have to work nights and weekends. Not everyone is 9-5, M-F. Neither Garth Brooks or TD Garden gets to decide to screw everyone over because they can't stick to a schedule and play by the rules. Actions should have consequences. That's life in the big city!
Yeah
But the licensing board never went after Fenway when I was routinely held up going into work on nights and weekends by often drunk baseball fans. Nor did they go after any of the city's parades (Sox, Pats, Bruins, St. Paddy's Day) when I was held up due to mostly drunk crowds and street closures. Nor did they go after the city's universities and landlords when I got stuck in the September 1st UHaul traffic, either.
Enter east, exit west?
or vice versa? Turning each of the two entrances temporarily into "one-ways" *might* have mitigated this problem.
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