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By adamg on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 12:43pm
Roman S was joined by a Blue Bike rider in getting on the Massachusetts Turnpike inbound from Allston around 12:15 p.m.
Might get interesting.
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He's figured out how to
He's figured out how to circumvent pay by plate
Quick reminder
No one bike rider represents the actions or opinions of any other bike rider.
Bike riders have as much control over one another as one car driver has to another.
Breaking the rules here:
when discussing cycling you are not allowed to be tempered, nor maintain perspective.
Yet all car drivers are the devil
According to posters on this site
All car drivers are the devil.
Okay, I said it for you, bobo.
Can we get a few more volunteers so bubeleh can get to sleep tonight?
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Mr. Walker becomes Mr. Wheeler
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vbciu
We've known this since 1950...catch up.
The on-ramp before this is
The on-ramp before this is Newton Corner which is a genuinely confusing set of ramps and loops, although you should realize you made a mistake before you get this far.
Nope
This person got on at Cambridge Street in Allston.
That is Nickerson Field on your right.
Newton Corner isn't confusing at all.
Newton Corner is very confusing
but I've never, ever, even started to accidentally ride onto a Turnpike on-ramp there, or anywhere else. On a bike, you're usually going slowly enough to avoid or correct such mistakes.
Newton Corner is extremely confusing
But that doesn't mean that someone on a bike can't exercise a bit of situational awareness and realize that they are headed onto an interstate.
Moot comment, however. This isn't Newton Corner.
It would be interesting to see how many official federally-compliant signs he had to pass to get there - but I doubt that our resident tailpipe huffing truck enablers would bother to think about that.
You're kidding, right?
Newton Corner is confusion incarnate.
Newton Corner
You, sir, are an idiot.
To give him some credit.
He might be the idiot savant of highway exits.
Or has never been there. That’s my guess.
"What's so difficult about it
"What's so difficult about it? It's just a corner! It's right there in the name! How complicated can that be?"
Ha
Once again, Pee Wee has proved his cognitive abilities. If you can't figure out Newton Corner, well, actually, with your simple minded comments, I understand why it is so complicated for you.
Must've taken a wrong turn
at Albuquerque.
An OUI offender left with no
An OUI offender left with no choice.
Wait ...
Didn't you recently post that all cyclists were upper income men?
Make up your mind!
Blue Bike riders
Are the Zip Car drivers of cycling.
And yes, I use Blue Bikes, because the Orange Line is my subway line.
New bike lane on the Turnpike
New bike lane on the Turnpike, Mayor Wu celebrates.
Riding a bicycle on the
Riding a bicycle on the Massachusetts Turnpike is a $100 dollar fine. No fine for the no helmet but why would you ride on the turnpike without one?
The reason? You're trying
The reason? You're trying for a Darwin Award.
FTFY
I’ve never attempted to ride a bike ….
… on the turnpike. But why would I bother with a good luck trinket like a helmet? At the speeds drivers speed at, a helmet would crush as easily as a skull. No other body parts like spines are protected.
Plus, studies show drivers drive closer and riskier when near cyclists are wearing helmets. Assumption of safety and dehumanization effects are some of the reasons they do.
Research has shown that wearing helmets in motor vehicles adds useful protection so I should wonder why I don’t wear one when in a car.
Watch what you say
A helmet has saved my life. They have saved the life of many of my friends who are lifelong cyclists. Even if the chance of needing a helmet is 0.001% on any one bike ride, over time the odds add up.
Sure, a helmet isn't going to do much if you're struck by a car at highway speeds. But there are other risks of riding a bike (something catching the front wheel, mechanical failure, etc) in which a helmet can be the difference between life and death.
And if a car pulls out in front of a cyclist, or opens a door on them, etc a helmet might be a deciding factor in how injured the rider ends up being.
I don't care if other people wear helmets but please don't spread harmful misinformation about them using useless. They aren't. They are cheap insurance and they absolutely work.
(There's the separate topic of people claiming any cyclist without a helmet is reckless and guilty for their injuries even if struck by a car. That's also a harmful lie.)
My info is valid.
Based on statistics.
Anyone can do the research and decide for themselves if they’re wear a helmet on the Mass Pike in a car or on a bike. They don’t need you or I telling them what to do.
I don’t need you telling me what my opinions should be either or that I should watch what I say. Back off.
I usually agree with much of what you say and appreciate what you add to discussions but your occasionally overbearing style isn’t cool.
I take this one very seriously
You mocked helmets and implied they are useless. It's your right to not wear one but I'm absolutely going to push back on the BS suggestion they are useless.
There is one (questionable) study that shows drivers give less room when they pass someone wearing a helmet. But even if that's true, a majority of car/bike collisions happen at intersections, not when a car is overtaking someone from behind. Cars hit bikes because the car driver wasn't paying attention! (I fear the people who don't see me, not the ones who do see me and don't move over because I'm wearing a helmet.)
And helmets are useful for all the accidents that don't involve a car. A dog running in front of the bike, a bad pothole, a mechanical failure, etc are common causes of a cyclist going down. When a helmet saved me a car wasn't involved.
There are countless studies showing how helmets have saved lives. There is absolutely no credible studies which show a helmet causes injuries.
If you don't want to wear one, that's your call. But don't say they are useless or people are safer without them.
There are actually 4 studies.
Since you are throwing out your anecdotal evidence I’ll toss mine in.
I know from several decades of riding a bike in Boston that drivers do react very differently to when when I’ve worn a helmet.
I could also give you anecdotal evidence of a doctor treating an injury sustained in a speeding cyclist on cyclist crash who ascertained that not only could the injury not have been prevented by a helmet, that in fact if the injurer had been wearing wearing one, the injury they caused would have been worse.
I’m not wasting more time on this old issue. I guess the helmet war still simmers under the surface with some fanatics.
Again, I’ll say what I want. Adam is the only one who can delete comments, as far as I know.
Keep bombasting away till the SUVs head home on Boston cow paths. I won’t stand in your close minded entitled way.
Do what you want
If your idea of bike safety is not wearing a helmet and expecting car drivers to notice and be less aggressive or reckless, I respect your faith.
Now you tell me what I think. Lol!
You funny.
In addition, the most common
In addition, the most common cause of cyclist injuries is road hazards such as potholes. So it really doesn't matter that a helmet won't save you if a truck runs over your head.
This is where appropriate speed …
… and type of bike, upright, hybrid, racer, for terrain and road congestion factor in.
Stats and studies address these as well.
"Based on statistics"
Interesting that you didn't provide those statistics of injuries to bikers wearing a bike helmet after getting hit by at-speed vehicles on the Mass Pike.
Did you forget the link?
It could save the bicyclist
It could save the bicyclist from a fractured skull.
Getting bumped or hit by a highway speed vehicle will not automatically fold up a bicycle like a crumpled piece of paper. Really, bikes don't do that. What's more likely to happen is the bicyclist will be thrown from his bike and hit his head on the pavement plus pick up an incredible case of road rash. The bike would be trashed but the helmet just might save the riders life
If I were audacious enough to ride a bicycle on the Turnpike I would definitely wear a helmet. It's very dangerous and illegal.
Personally though, if I were to go bike riding again I wouldn't wear a helmet. Decades of experience riding without one don't you know. ;)
It’s kind of a moot point.
Who is actually planning to ride their bike on the Mass Pike? And if anyone is, what are their reasons for wearing or not wearing a helmet?
There are many situations where helmet manufacturers would like to see people wearing helmets. People with balance issues sometimes do wear them in daily life. Sports players where them. Though look how much or how little they protect football players. Some drivers and their passengers also wear them. Stats show you are more likely to sustain a head injury in the shower, on stairs or walking in a crosswalk with the light than on a bicycle. But does anyone other than severely mobility challenged people do that?
Fortunately for the US and other countries, it remains mostly a personal choice. Unlike places like Australia where draconian laws have reduced cycling, put people back in cars and thus adversely affect public health and in the end, show no reduction in cycling related injuries.