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You know a protest movement is serious when it gets its own song

No, not Occupy Boston or Whose Foods. Bob Feldman belts out a protest against the proposed skyscraper on top of Neiman Marcus at Copley Place. Lyrics.

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Waaah someone wants to build a tower next to my tower and block my precious views!

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So he's not a homeless guy?

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I believe is the politically-correct term.

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I'd totally Section 12 him.

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What gives this guy the idea that a property owner who goes through the proper permitting process should be denied the opportunity to build? This is one of the nicest towers proposed in a few years, and the location is perfect for the density level. There are two subway stations within two blocks, serving 5 lines, along with 4 commuter rail lines. If there is a better place anywhere in Boston for residential towers, I'd be hard pressed to find it.

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What gives this guy the idea that a property owner who goes through the proper permitting process should be denied the opportunity to build?

Proper permitting process? How do you define proper permitting process. The zoning here is 150 feet and there are longstanding agreements from the original Copley construction that no buildings in the area would exceed half the height of the Hancock Tower. Right or wrong those are the rules the developer, city and state agreed to decades ago. Now they are using a zoning technique called a PDA to say they can build whatever they want basically if you have over an acre of property they can ignore the rules).

I believe this gentleman lives in the affordable housing complex next door - Tent City. It's about 6 stories high. They want to build a 60 story tower next door in and area zoned for less than 15 stories. The letters to the BRA came in almost 2-1 against this development. When you back out the usual union and business association letters it was probably 5-1 or even 10-1 against. Contrary to popular belief, this is unusually large - usually people can't be bothered writing letters.

For the record - I agree - it's a spectacularly beautiful building and this is a good place for density. However as a resident I'm concerned. This will be an enormous change on the skyline, wind (already a huge problem in this area), traffic (this intersection is notoriously difficult to navigate and their proposals will dramatically reduce visibility) and other environmental issues.

This is far more than "permitting process" if there even is one other than the BRA rubberstamping the project so they can collect their fees at a time when their revenue sources are rapidly drying up.

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Wind?? Really? You're worried about wind?? What a nimby.

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Ever try to ride a bike down St. James Avenue next to Trinity Church? Or even walk there? I've been blown clear off the road, all the way to the right-hand curb, by wind coming off the Hancock.

This doesn't mean I'm against the development, but some attention should be paid to at least not making the wind problem worse.

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For the record - I agree - it's a spectacularly beautiful building and this is a good place for density. However as a resident I'm concerned. This will be an enormous change on the skyline, wind (already a huge problem in this area), traffic (this intersection is notoriously difficult to navigate and their proposals will dramatically reduce visibility) and other environmental issues.

So you are of the opinion that a spectacular building in the best location for density shouldn't be done? I'm sorry, but you need to move to Milton. You don't want to live in a city.

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"When you back out the usual union and business association letters"

Okay, might as well account for the fact that people are much more likely to write in to complain than to display no opinion or to show support. You NIMBYs are the minority, but you're very loud and aggravating.

This is within the designated high spine, so really, what is the big deal. Stop trying to cap the supply, it's very inconsiderate for everyone besides yourself. Input is fine, but I'm tired of people going ape over very silly things. This is a city, we're in the 21st century, and this is how things work in a society. Going be anti-social on a culdesac.

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You are decades behind the times - that term was abandoned years ago as a bad concept of urban design (that legally can't be built). Even the BRA tries to avoid it but slips up from time to time - granted, they are poster children for bad planning because they don't do any.

Like I said - I'm not 100% opposed to this particular project, but there are a lot of very concerning issues. The problem is that there is no planning - nobody thinks of what is "good" for Boston as Henry suggests except that downtown is an ATM for the city. We need another $10 million - let's build another building in the Back Bay for the taxes (or the union jobs to get the officials reelected). Then they see what they can get away with - that's the extent of thinking that goes on. Personally, like MANY other Bostonians I like the human scale of Boston and nothing says inhuman like a 600 plus foot residential building. There are lots of spectacular cities our size and bigger that are spectacular exactly because they have no or few tall buildings - but with good planning - Singapore, Jerusalem and DC come to mind - examples of ancient, historic and modern cities that have adapted to brand their cities primarily with compact, high density, medium and low rise buildings.

I was going to make a list of buildings that were approved by the BRA that violate either zoning or longstanding agreements with the neighborhood - but when I got over a dozen and figured I was at best half way there and it was too long. Again - I could go either way on this project. There are a lot of small positives, but also a few very large negatives.

I love all the people who come in and say "It's a city, we need the taxes, we need the jobs, just approve it" (the jobs and taxes thing is BS, that will happen anyway, but for another time). That's what they probably used to say in Southie and Allston Brighton and other parts of the city that are now being run over by the BRA. Keep saying that, and when they come for you there will be nobody left to speak up.

Keep in mind the neighborhoods have an extremely good track record of being right, unfortunately often well after the fact when it's too late. Without those willing to speak up the Back Bay would look like the West End and this project wouldn't even be under discussion, the Boston Public garden would be in shade 9 months of the year, the Old South Church and the library wouldn't have been significantly damaged during recent construction (the elevators would have simply been moved about 100 feet in each case). The Mandarin - ooohh the Mandarin - need I say more about the second ugliest building in Boston. They are not perfect - but the track record in distant hindsight is very strong, far too strong to ignore.

The problem is that the process is broken. If they came to the neighborhood and said - here's the installed real estate base, let's make a 20 year plan to grow it 2% a year (twice the rate of Boston as a whole) for the next 20 years and revisit it every 5 years - that puts the onus rightly on the neighborhood to participate and be responsible for needed growth, but probably without the constant angst over every single project. That's a proper and sustainable process. Making an exception to everything for financial expediency is no way to build a city for the long haul.

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Why limit ourselves to that, when we can do much more by growing upward. Boston once housed 850,000 people.

As for your examples of low height density, I don't disagree that it is possible and often desirable, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing we should have in this city. I'm not familiar with Jerusalem, but I've enjoyed visiting St. Petersburg, Prague, and Paris, all examples of low height density that are wonderful cities. I get the concept, and we have plenty of good examples in Boston. Again, though, it's not the only option, and I prefer a mix of low-rise, mid-rise, and high-rise density forms. But that's you and me expressing personal opinions, neither of which are necessarily valid determinants of what is best.

Anyway, I got a laugh out of your using Singapore as an example:

IMAGE(http://www.cityimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Singapore_skyline_001.jpg)

There are 4,300 high-rise buildings in Singapore, six of which are taller than the Hancock. I'd love to follow this example! ;)

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Boston's housing stock grows by about 0.5% a year and population about 1% - I'm proposing downtown housing stock grow at double or even quadruple the rate that's been in place for at least a decade - but let the local neighborhood decide how best to accomplish that (with the city stepping in if they stonewall the process). You can't just build houses and assume people will come -that's how we ended up with a surplus of office space 10 years ago, a surplus of condos more recently and soon a surplus of luxury rental apartment buildings - working people move to where the jobs are and you might get a few retirees to move downtown before heading off to Florida -but that's about it - if you can figure out how to double or triple the rate of job growth we can grow faster - and there's a job for you in a big white house on Pennsylvania Ave in Washington.

As for Singapore - it's actually a perfect example. For two years I worked in one of the buildings on the right in that picture and lived in a 4 story apartment building about a mile behind this cluster of buildings. Everything is planned in minute detail - there is no other cluster of office buildings like this. Likewise, midrise (very few true high rises unless they've changed since I was last there 10 years ago) are scattered in concentrated areas around the island/city/country - which is about 6-7 times the size of Boston.

If you want to follow this example - you actually don't put the high rise residential downtown - you put them in JP, West Roxbury, Hyde Park Southie and Charlestown in fairly tight clusters with ample public transit (90% of households can't afford a car - it costs over $100k just to get the right to buy a car) - but taxis are subsidized, plentiful and dirt cheap. It's not a perfect example, but if you want to look at how planning works - they are the icons of planning - and execution. Boston doesn't do planning. Developers tell them they want to develop and the city says how big and the developers reply what kind of a tax break will you give us - the BRA gets paid for development - not planning and the politicians get elected for staying out of the way of the unions. When it comes back to bite us in the behind as it does like clockwork every 5-10 years going back to at least the mid 80's, we get more desperate to build more stuff that nobody wants or few can afford and the cycle starts over. Unfortunately we are running out of ideas - office, retail, condos are already overbuilt. That leaves apartments (thousands coming soon to a neighborhood near you) and hotels - we could probably use a couple but there's just not a lot of room there. I hope you are right - and if we can land the next Google, Apple or Facebook, maybe the jobs will come. In the meantime, it's 1200 housing units a year as it has been for at least the past decade - and that's asking a lot in this environment where incremental demand has slid to maybe a few hundred a year citywide.

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than a majority of interested parties disfavor the building, but government seems to be ready to approve it despite zoning laws, to a big money interest.

This sounds EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes people think their democracy is bought and sold.

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We have no evidence that a majority opposes this building. Second, that's not how it works. We have a representative government, selected by all residents of Boston, not just a few dozen letter writers. Their job isn't to cater to a vocal minority but to seek the best choices for the city as a whole. Do you know that many of the vocal complainers have listed shadows at tent city as a primary concern? For those who don't know, Tent City being to the South of this building, will not see any shadows, as they are only cast Northward in the Northern hemisphere. Should this scientifically impossible concern be taken seriously?

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when did Moe Howard move to Boston?

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he's more of a Shemp.

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