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If you rip down the First Baptist Church's Black Lives Matter banner, they're just going to put another one up
By adamg on Fri, 10/30/2015 - 10:13am
The Globe reports on the Jamaica Plain church's problem with vandals.
Yesterday:
An open letter to the person who hired a lawyer to complain about a Black Lives Matter lawn sign.
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Preemptive note for anonymous commenters
If you think I'm going to find your comment racist and won't post it, odds are you're right.
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This policy is offensive
Why call out only anonymous comments and not all comments?!?! All comments matter!
Preemptive note for readers
If you think you'll find an unbiased post/discussion here, odds are you're wrong......
If this bothers you...
Maybe go read another website?
Done
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniversalHub/
Redditor for 1 hour
Looks like a very lively community. Enjoy.
First they laugh you...etc
First they laugh you...etc etc
Baby steps old man, crawl before you can run the insurrection is nigh
Now I know how Steve Martin felt
Things are going to start happening to me now!
Already drinking the kool-aid I see?
You'll fit in great over at Voat.
the hateful are the minority
Adorable!
They're all so cute when they're butthurt.
You even got your own dedicated thread!
I can only hope to reach that level someday, a personal thread caulk full of all my bike rants and various grievances against our good friend Lord_GaffinofSwirlz.
Uh we are very bike friendly
Uh we are very bike friendly , thank you
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translation
"Adam won't approve my hateful, dumbass comment."
It's a violation of my right
"It's a violation of my right to free speech to be held accountable for my idiot opinions!!!!"
What's your definition
of hateful? Anything you disagree with or find offensive (which is highly subjective)? I see troll-like comments on Uhub all the time, from every political and ideological angle, usually from those with accounts, some of whom apparently believe this entitles them to post the kind of troll-like comments they complain some anons attempt to post.
Just ssying.
See my answer a couple comments below
As for anonymous vs. logged-in users: Yes, I give logged-in users a lot more leeway. Over the past few years, it seems to work - in general, logged in users do not threaten or suggest horrible deaths to other posters, they basically own their words, and while some might seem trollish at times, they are not turning this site into the sort of cesspool that my earlier attempt at a forum wound up as (and that having been said, yes, I have deleted a very tiny number of accounts).
Just sayin
That phrase has become the new code word for "Not being racist/bigoted or anything but....."
Bro get your liberal terminology correct
It's called a "micro agression", when one occurrs liberals will run to the nearest cubby space. Also know as a "safe space".
my definition
hateful
[heyt-fuh l]
adjective
1. arousing hate or deserving to be hated :
the hateful oppression of dictators.
2. unpleasant; dislikable; distasteful:
She found her domestic chores hateful.
3. full of or expressing hate; malignant; malevolent:
a hateful denunciatory speech.
You need time out.
"Waaaaaaah. Adam won't let me spew hatred, ignorance, and bigotry on his blog. Waah-waah-waah. I'm white and fragile. I need to maintain a feeling of superiority to others or I will crumble to pieces. You don't understand, racism is who I am. It's the air that I breathe. Stop oppressing me with your rhetoric of justice and equality."
Gotta love anecdotal
Gotta love anecdotal interpretations
safe spaces
Adam of course you are by no means obligated to provide a platform for anyone since this is your own personal website , but dont you think the free exchange of ideas is important ? Do you not think it is important to tell someone why they are wrong , rather than just shutting them down and having them live in perpetual ignorance?
best reguards
I've actually spent a fair amount of time thinking about that
That would involve codifying things and I know people are very, very good at figuring out ways around specific rules (don't think I didn't notice how clever people got at trying to come up with alternatives for the word "thug" when I said I was banning that from the site), which would result in me spending even more time writing up new rules and explanations and before you know it I'm spending all my time moderating comments instead of, oh, finding actual news to write about or link to.
I suspect you mean well with the "free exchange of ideas" and all, but I tried that once with another site and it failed completely: At the end, the site consisted of about three people yelling about how Democrats are all traitors who should die. So, no, I'm not going to go that route.
What that means is that for now I'm going with two rules: One is a variant of Potter Stewart's definition of pornography - with the understanding that, yes, I'm a liberal and all that, and not some bile-spewing Trump/Cruz/Carson supporter. The other is, to be honest, "I don't care." I look at a comment I think is racist, I go with Potter Stewart. I look at a comment that adds in gratuitous insults about me or people who actually do sign in with accounts and I go "I don't care" and hit delete.
Fair enough, Adam
This is your site, and there are plenty of outlets for bigots on English language social media.
Security Cams?
They should, if they don't have them, cams. They are excellent quality and dirt cheap in 2015. This would greatly facilitate catching vandals.
I would love, for once, for these types of vandals, to get caught and exposed.
Kindly read the article. They
Kindly read the article. They do have cameras.
Then they have decent video
of the vandalism? Will it be made public by them? Maybe police will get it and post it on their site.
Something similar happened at the U - church in Arlington
Some geinus(es) vandalized the BLM sign outside the church at the corner of Mass Ave & Pleasant Street about a week ago. And the church did put up another sign quickly.
Ruthless spelling of geniuses
Ruthless spelling of geniuses
Now that's a thought
I don't go to First Parish anymore, but I was there when the town wanted to put the nativity scene on the lawn and the church said no.
Perhaps a "Black Lives Matter" Nativity Scene is in order? Were I still a congregant, I'd bring it up as a possibility.
Perhaps Mary can have her arms chained through a barrel?
And the rest of the usual suspects (wise men, Joseph) would fit right in to the BLM protest theme, as they too were all white in most representations.
Of course, the sheep and oxen statues would need PETA approval stickers.
That's the Wise Men's Job
Put 6' tall ones chained through cement filled barrels under the "star" (streetlights at Mass Ave and Rt. 60). They have the privilege to escape punishment.
You don't know much about UUism, do ya, Moxie? Hint: these churches do hold barbecues and such.
UUism?
Nope. I'm a recovering Catholic.
That's okay
You'd find common ground with half a typical UU Congregation in these parts.
Easy there
That's hurting admin's tender liberal ears, better tone it down a bit before he comes out with his banhammer.
Have some respect
You do realize that members of these congregations gave their lives in the civil rights struggle? They left their comfortable and privileged existence behind, struggled for equality, and were murdered alongside those they came to assist because certain people didn't want to accept that Black Lives Matter.
You would be well served to look up who the Freedom Riders were and what they were about - and how many of them were brutally murdered by people who couldn't stand the thought of equality.
What was that about your "right" to make ignorant remarks on a private forum, again?
Unborn lives don't matter to UU churches putting these up
Swirly, besides the objection to the nativity scene, the other hypocritical, "liberal" oppositions to free speech in Arlington have been the vandalization of other political lawn signs over the years including my lawn signs for the ballot question on keeping 4 lanes on Mass Ave (which won in the polls, but ignored by democratically elected representatives), and lawn signs for republican candidates.
The Arlington UU Church also seems to be in violation of town zoning bylaws for its lawn sign.
What's the deal with the new
What's the deal with the new church across the street and down a bit on Mass Ave? It seems jam packed with young families every time I go past. They conservative?
Yes and No
Highrock is evangelical, but not the sort that tells you how to vote. I have several friends who are active in that church. They draw from a much larger area than Arlington.
In contrast, there are UU churches in nearly every city and town around here, so their congregations are local.
Like you care about anybody but yourself?
If they were running down children with cars, you'd be there every Sunday!
Then again, I've never seen you working in the food pantry, either.
I agree, if you take it down
I agree, if you take it down I would just put another up, why should it bother you enough to mess with it in the 1st place
In case you didn't have time
In case you didn't have time to read the article...
BLM Re-installation event
Sunday Nov 1st, 1pm
First Baptist Church
633 Centre St
JP
Aggressions intended to weaken a social movement
Aggressions intended to weaken a social movement only serve to unify and strengthen it.