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Next time, maybe don't drop things off the footbridge
By adamg on Mon, 03/07/2016 - 11:07am
Capt. John Greland at C-6 reports:
3/6 12:07pm 421 Old Colony Av 11 year old girl dropped branch from foot bridge that cracked windshield of MV. When POs were putting her in cruiser to bring to C6 to await her mother she began crying and said "How do I know you're not going to taze me or kill me?"
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Adorable!
Adorable!
While this 11 year old should
While this 11 year old should have definitely not been throwing things off the bridge (because she could have hurt someone and her parents should pay for the cracked windshield), there is a serious conversation that needs to happen since her greatest fear, when being confronted with the police, is violence or death.
since her greatest fear, when
Another innocent brainiwashed by the media and the "all police are evil" crowd. That's the conservation that needs to happen here.
Rolls eyes
You sound like you have been brainwashed by Faux Nooz and their incessant fellation of people who murder people or make excuses for why they are allowed to murder people in cold blood because they wear certain uniforms.
If you don't agree that there are people who shouldn't be allowed a gun or a badge who are wandering around bullying and murdering while wearing badges and carrying guns, then you need to wake up and smell the coffee. You're next. We are all next.
"conservation"?
Work on that diction, youngster.
you dont
and maybe you wont continue to be a filthy criminal in the future
She's 11
It's a little harsh calling an 11 year old a filthy criminal. She's just a child and she's very lucky nobody was hurt or worse. Kids do stupid things and destroy property. I hope she is "scared straight" by this experience.
age has no bearing
she knew it was wrong, throw her in jail
Sounds lovely
As long as you are being sensible about it.
She'll learn from the experience...
...If they arrested her, regardless of age, because damage to private property occurred.
How are kids going to learn right from wrong if they don't put the fear of God in them (via arrest)?
Bringing her in is one thing...
Suggesting she is a filthy criminal is another.
sorry
i don't condone crime or sugarcoat it when potentially life threatening criminal acts occur. maybe you'd feel better if i called her a "distressed youth" or "non-malignant law bender"
Or maybe
You could just call her a kid. Kids do stupid things and the police user their judgment in situations. The police did not arrest her and chose instead to call her mother. Restitution will be paid and a record will be started. Nowhere did it say she was distressed and I think you meant "non-benign law bender" as you and I both pointed out the potential for fatality.
no, i meant what i said
because it was an attempt to find terms that might be suitable for the "time out" crowd here. wouldn't want to be TOO judgmental of the lil criminal now would we?
thanks though
and dont tell me what i mean again.
(eyeroll)
"And dont tell me what I mean again."
Everyones tired of the shtick, Scum.
And if it's not shtick, go find a doctor. You're unwell.
jeez
Can someone give this guy a post per day limit? Or a library card or resources to obtain a hobby?
Boston drivers break the law
Boston drivers break the law and not only threaten lives, they actually take lives away, and they re rarely held accountanle. Yet I don't see you calling them filthy criminals. We treat dangerous drivers with kid gloves and treat actual kids much harsher. Pretty damn sick.
aw man, you were doing so good
But eventually everything comes back to how evil those metal box operators are.
It's a valid comparison
Granted Kinopio is a one-trick pony, it's still a valid comparison in this case. When a driver intentionally does something that can result in someone else being injured or killed (even though injuring or killing wasn't their intention), many people have a pretty forgiving attitude ("It was an accident"). Here, we've got an 11-year-old, not a class of people known for robust good judgment, who intentionally does something that can result in someone else being injured or killed, but -- as with the case of the hypothetical driver -- apparently does it without intending to injure or kill someone, and she's a "filthy criminal". Don't you see any disconnect?
Hey Scum. You need to relax.
Hey Scum. You need to relax. She's 11. Think about all the things you did as a child that you wouldn't ever do today as an adult. I hope you don't have kids.
Jail seems a little extreme here
Having her pay for a new windshield would be more appropriate. Oh, you say you can't afford it? Then sell your cellphone.
I got caught steeling candy form a store
When i was about 6 by my father who was a cop.
Do you think he should have turned me over to the local police and how much hard time do you think i should have received?
i got caught stealing by my father, too
and he did turn me in, actually. after my mom told him he dragged me back to the store later that night and turned me in to the store manager.
true story
the store manager yelled at me, and i cried, but i didn't steal again :-)
i was probably 3 years old. he should have turned in my mother as well but not everybody can be strong. at least i learned my lesson.
These damn 11 year old
career criminals are ruining our footbridges. Build a wall in front of the footbridge and make the 11 year old pay for it! Lets make our footbridges great again!!
You really
You really need to get back on your meds. You're a prime case today.
Scary part is
She's already brainwashed into hating police.
Or
You are already brainwashed into thinking that police can do no wrong, despite petabytes of video to the contrary.
She is lucky that she lives in Boston, though.
You mean the carefully selected
and edited videos that are NOT representative of how hundreds of thousands of police officers do every day. Yah, THAT'S an objective view- not.
It only takes one
Hundreds of thousands of police officers can be just fine, but the one bad cop you encounter can ruin the rest of your life -- or end it.
Is that an odd thing for a police officer to tweet?
That's an odd thing for a Police Officer to tweet, right (especially with the emoji in the original tweet)?
Why do Police Officers even use twitter w.r.t. arrests? It seems like it can only end in PR trouble.
Post-modernism at its finest.
I especially liked the blushing emoji in the original tweet. Is he for real embarrassed, or are we supposed to be embarrassed on his behalf? Is there a subtle nod and a wink behind this exchange? Who knows! It is a mystery!
Meanwhile, let's ignore the fact that at least two people thought the correct solution to this problem was to arrest an 11-year-old girl, and instead focus on how we can blame this tearful child for whatever weird hangups we have about police misconduct.
all i hear is
"lets ignore criminal actions"
blame the tearful child that could have killed somebody with their disgraceful actions.
you know what. i WILL blame the child---err, criminal
Great!
Great! 11-year-olds are totally responsible for all their actions, and all juvenile sentencing laws are hereby revoked. All of us were law-abiding, upstanding citizens at 11, so these little brats should be held to the same post-hoc standards. We'll just emulate Egypt.
you're right
throw this criminal's (criminally) negligent parents in jail, too. fair is fair.
"its not a crime if an 11 year old does it" - a liberal (but definitely one who wasnt assaulted with a weapon from an 11 year old while commuting this morning)
So, there's no possibility you read the part where it says
"To await mother."
Yup, worse than Egypt, awaiting your mother.
its the only way
these people can come close to making a point. obviously, nobody anywhere is responsible for what happened today and any attempt to place responsibility is a human rights violation.
god, the "time out" generation makes me sad.
Well, let's see now.
So far in this thread, you've thrown out two accusations of liberal-crybaby-ism, suggested imprisoning the 11-year-old and her neglectful parents, and impugned the parenting skills of two generations. I'd ask you what your encore is, but since you adopt a different persona every day to maximize reactions, it would be a pointless question. Enjoy your day, and bless your heart.
(I'm like 75% sure you're
(I'm like 75% sure you're trolling, BTW, but there are an alarming number of people here who seem to unironically agree with you, which is horrifying in ways I can't even articulate. Have any of you people talked to an 11-year-old lately?)
This is what happens
This is what happens when you try to have a nice place on the internet with open discussions. It's all hate and sensationalism. Captain keyboard is so brave in hiding. Pathetic really. This isn't even a bike vs. car post.
so brave in hiding?
what are you suggesting, that i'm unwilling to say this in person? i wouldnt go down that road fella, because as far as i can tell, you're posting anonymously as well.
But I act my age
You're not contributing in a meaningful way. You're just a jerk. You post rude comments to make yourself feel like a champion. I bet you wouldn't say this to the parents of this kid and if you would I am giving you way too much credit as a decent human in public.
liberal try hard
isn't an age, its a mental illness
A first for me
This is the first time ever someone has called me a liberal on this board. I'm not sure how that makes me feel. Old? I guess you can't see the difference between reasonable an liberal. Maybe your are confusing liberal with educated? That's probably what you meant.
ahh, you're a troll.
i get it. telling me what i meant again. good one. i hope they charge this insolent whelp as an adult and throw away the damned key.
Question vs. statement
That's what the question mark is for. You'll be disappointed a great deal in life if this is representative of what you hope for.
But I act my age
You're not contributing in a meaningful way. You're just a jerk. You post rude comments to make yourself feel like a champion. I bet you wouldn't say this to the parents of this kid and if you would I am giving you way too much credit as a decent human in public.
who says im a decent human?
i'm decent in that i'm not at the start of a burgeoning career of criminality. i've never claimed to be a decent human being, but at least i'm not throwing objects at cars and destroying property.
though it is telling here that you consider me the jerk, when i didn't cap off my breakfast with malicious destruction of property and utterly ruining the day of another (or possibly, a group) person
i bet you think this little 11 year old bonnie-in-the-making is the victim here lmfao
I won't make that mistake again
Noted, you're not decent. I hope you never make a mistake.
i've never done anything
that i wasn't willing to pay for
i can't say the same for a lot of people. i'm not perfect but at least i own everything i do.
So...
...let's say hypothetically that after this 11-year old's actions resulted with someone, or even a few people, getting injured or killed (and yes, I know there wasn't anyone injured or killed)? Are we supposed to just shrug our shoulders and say "oh well, she's 11?"
Arresting or placing the girl in police custody till the parent shows up is probably the best thing that could have happened to her and should be a lesson she won't soon forget.
SERIOUSLY. Everyone is just
SERIOUSLY. Everyone is just ignoring that this could have ended in serious injuries or somebody dying? The girl should have been sent skipping on home? The police picking her up (not arresting her but transporting her somewhere where her mother could get her) hammers in the severity of what she did.
I was a pretty stupid 11 year old but I knew not to throw things at moving cars.
And...
So could driving while using a cellphone. Are you ok with having cops arrest and impound the vehicles of drivers using cellphones?
I'm not saying the 11 year old shouldn't face consequences, but it does seem hypocritical to go all-caps about one action that "could have ended in serious injuries or somebody dying" and let a whole host of others slide.
Dropping things off of overpasses
is illegal. Using a cellphone while driving is not.
When the laws regarding cellphone use are changed, then talk to us.
"Us"?
'
Who, you and the mouse in your pocket? Don't be disingenuous. Texting while driving is illegal, ANY use of a cellphone by a teen is illegal, and the senate passed a bill in January banning all handheld cellphone use. Is that enough change for you? If I said "texting while driving", does that change your response?
Who bothers?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet...
These are all admirable
Qualities shared by many world leaders. If this was supposed to be insulting, try again.
If she's 11
she's in 7th grade. She's not an adult but she knew that throwing the branch onto the cars below could cause an accident. I don't think she should go to jail but this is clear evidence of early anti-social behavior and someone should work with her and her parents. The idea that all people her age behave this way is ludicrous. I was working after school in a library in 7th grade. I never knew anyone that threw anything on off a bridge to cause harm to other people. This is not normal behavior.
if she's 11, she's in 5th grade
if we are going by personal experience here, and it looks like you are, 11-y-o kids are in 5th grade. I was 13 in 7th grade, as most are.
Kids mess around, and learn from their mistakes. That's what childhood is for -- GROWING UP.
branch off footbridge
Has anyone considered the 11 yr old could have been pouring on the crocodile tears and playing up the "taze or kill me" angle just a bit?
Cops tweeting about an arrest seems unprofessional at the least.
my boyfriend was the one who called the cops..
This 11 year old, was with her friend, and threw not a stick, a LOG with BRANCHES attached intentionally at the car. My boyfriend's car was directly next to the guys car who got hit and was very close to hitting his car as well. He saw her wait look and throw it at the car as it drove underneath the bridge.
The guy who's car she hit, had a child in the passenger seat, who could have been seriously hurt. The impact from the log was right on the passanger side of the car. For all you people saying oh shes only 11 she knew EXACTLY what she was doing...a ride to the police station to wait for her mother is appropriate for her actions.
With all this verbal diarrhea, here is what I don't see ...
.. and what concerns me most:
1) No one asked about the person in car even though no one was hurt. I promise you the emotional shock to this person will linger for a long time. And if the child in the passenger seat is old enough to understand what happened, what about the child?
2) What about the absence of an apparent moral compass and regret from an 11 year old? If social services were functional in this state, this would be a case for them to get involved in. Not that I am accusing the parents but there is definitely something to be concerned about with respect to the child. She did not steal candy from the store, she did not play with fire crackers, or any of the 1000's of other mischief's that children get caught up in. This could have resulted in death just like when people throw cinder blocks from bridges.
3) Why is everyone so ready to jump on the soapbox and opine their all too important view when the human cost is not of concern?
4) The police tweet local incidents as part of keeping the local people informed. This is good.
5) Thankfully the police took the child to the station to await the mother. Now lets hope the mother/parents have the wherewith all to deal with real crime here - their daughter did something that could have resulted in destroying someone of some peoples lives.
6) Thanks to the fellow in the car that was almost hit who had the presence to call the police and didn't decide "not to get involved".
7) What would you have done in the same place?
My best wishes to the people whose car was hit. May this pass quickly from you. And thank you to the person who took the time to report this.
And please, apply some rational judgement, messing around and messing up are not the same as throwing a large piece of wood over the railing on the foot bridge. There is a scale of severity here and this incident is at the wrong end of that scale.
Oy
Just because any regret was not publicly reported (or her parent's reaction, either), doesn't mean that she has "no moral compass or regret" or needs to be thrown into the foster care system,etc. It also doesn't mean that DYS won't be checking up. Please. Or is she, in your brain, automatically a "superpredator" who needs to be "brought to heel" for dropping a stick off an overpass - something that generations of cops didn't bother investigating in generations of kids!
you may be over reacting to my post...
I am in fact not "preditorizing" her. Just the opposite. I am more concerned about her and helping her that victimizing her. I am hoping her parent(s) have the means to take this further. I am accepting her being 11 years old as a possible issue in her lack of judgement.
When my son was this age and something challenging happened, we had the means to engage with this. But from what I have seen of other BPS families (assumption given where this happended), this was frequently not the case.
so please take a deep breath and read my concern for those involved in this and my desire to have the "crowds at the Colosseum" back off. I don't want to see this child end up traumatized by the system and I am sorry for the effect her actions may have on the people who were on the receiving end of her actions.
In either case, this needs attention and care rather than some of the apparent "posting her head on a pike at the village gate" or perhaps worse, willingness to write it off as "11 year olds do this stuff".
And you are right, I don't know if she showed any regret. And even if she did, this still needs attention.
projectile dropped from footbridge
Louise Trahan, was a Haverhill teacher who was critically injured when a chunk of concrete was dropped from an Andover overpass in 1980. She survived but died in her sleep two years later. Case was never solved, but it was no doubt "children" who committed that act that given the results was a crime. This 11 year old is not going to jail, but should be educated by the official response as to the seriousness of her actions.
There's plenty of doubt
There's plenty of doubt in the mind of anyone who's not driven by simplistic agendas. What there isn't, is evidence. Unless you have any, perhaps you should work on that doubt, or at least refrain from expressing certainty about things of which you have no knowledge.