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Oh well
Back to getting Wendy's before I hit up King Arthur's
Oh, have I got sad news for you ...
King Arthur's? Sorry, not coming back.
This is an absolute shock.
This is an absolute shock. Who woulda thunk that a restaurant aimed at the New Hampshirites that only spend 81 days a year in the Fenway area wouldn't be able to be a long-term fixture in the Fens?!?
spot on. And the food is
spot on. And the food is horrific.
Not only was the food
Not only was the food horrific, but they failed at the one thing a restaurant needs to be able to do when they are located by Fenway - get the food out in a timely manner before the game. It shouldn't take almost an hour for some boneless wings and nachos.
Well, in fairness, people who
Well, in fairness, people who order boneless wings should be forced to wait in purgatory.
Love it
New Hampshirites
Called it
Although I myself liked the place. They realized that they couldn't win on girls alone, and had cheap beer.
Cheap beer isn't enough to
Cheap beer isn't enough to pay the rent.
Bring Back CopperFights!
Can we now get back to cheap draft beer, bands, and watching Cletus from Templeton act like a big shot because he has his "Boston" attitude on while coming to Fenway?
I miss that place.
Now if they had let patrons
Now if they had let patrons throw axes at stuff, maybe they's still be in business.
People came for the breasts,
People came for the breasts, not the axe wounds.
Actually?
They didn't.
Don't steal the sunshine of
Don't steal the sunshine of my double entendre.
Now, if only..
we could say the same of the one in Dedham. Dedham: the place where all of Boston's rejected worst impulses go to thrive.
There is no Tilted Kilt in
There is no Tilted Kilt in Dedham.
There's a Hooters
Which I know, because my child asks me, "what's a Hooter?" whenever we pass the sign.
Places like those and Hooters
Places like those and Hooters are just creepy
Went in once to pee
I found the vibe very uncomfortable. Bright lighting and patrons who seemed like they could start brawling at any moment. And the costumes on the girls were (dare I say it) too revealing. There's sexy and then there's gross and this crossed the line. Good riddance.
(I second the motion to bring back Copperfields.)
It's almost like
society has decided that the blatant sexual objectification of women is tasteless or something.
At-will employment
Enough said.
As recently 2015, this category of restaurant
was the fastest-growing in the US. I haven't seen more recent figures.
I've been to a couple of Hooterses under duress: truly appalling food, including the vaunted wings, and both were filthy from a pure cleanliness standpoint. Gross.
It's a weird corner of the restaurant business, practically a PG-rated corner of the sex-worker business. Creepy and exploitative.
Sorry to see people put out of work, but not the format exiting Boston. Amid the current boom, those folks should land quickly.
Wings anecdote
I was once sitting in a prime seat in Carnegie Hall, waiting for the beginning of a piano recital by the magisterial Maurizio Pollini. In the row behind me were several blue-haired New York society matrons, who were debating the best place to get wings. Some opted for TGIF and the like, but one of them very confidently held out for Hooters.
Your era of crass and crude
Your era of crass and crude objectification of women is coming to a close.
Quesion
Does this make us a more or less world class city now?
Back in the 1980s, I went to
Back in the 1980s, I went to a restaurant in downtown Boston with some friends for an upscale night out. The food was fine, and the decor very modern/nice. The waitresses all looked like runway models just in from Milan, in tight pencil skirts and tops with the top three buttons open. That joint sold more sex in one night than all the Hooters chains in the country sell all year. It looked like a high-end Manhattan escort convention. And I never heard a word about the place in the media. Or from the likes of you frauds.
The people who run Hooters found a brilliant way to sell mediocre food. They just tease the Baptist/progressive team with the name, and reap the free publicity that comes from it. Anyone who has actually been inside a Hooters would know that the waitresses are certainly not chosen for their busts, and no more for their bodies than any other restaurant. They wear short-shorts - with pantyhose/tights so dense that you really see no leg at all. And the customers will usually always include couples with kids. The idea - floated by one commenter - that Hooters is at one end of the sex trade is so laughably dim one has to wonder if a mental disability is involved.
I think what we've got here is what they've been recently calling 'virtue signalling.' No effort to actually think - just a semiotic 'check me out' for the crowd.
Did you have to walk uphill
Did you have to walk uphill both to and from said establishment?
I've been in two Hooterses: Saugus and San Antonio.
The waitstaff on those visits were perhaps hired based on their experience and hospitality skills, but they uniformly had similar physical assets. Probably just a coincidence, eh?
I can understand how some folks have a hard time seeing the PG-rated titillation of a breastaurant on the same continuum as prostitution. To me, they're poles on a spectrum of exploitation and sleaze. One's just dressed up in phony wholesomeness. Ick: I'm not buying it.
Hey blowhard
Let’s meet and discuss your thoughts on “girls with c-section scars.” Spoiler alert: wherever we go won’t be allowed to use glassware for some time after our chat.
PS. On second thought, I don’t think there’s much blow or hard in your life anymore.
Not a fan of the place...
They always had the AC up too high, was very nipply in there. ;)
In any seriousness...
I had been to the one in San Diego several years ago (I had never heard of the chain and thought it was just a local thing in downtown) and the food was very meh (just the wife and I) at that point I have never heard of the chain or the term breastaraunt.
I will be honest, I like breasts. I like pretty ladies.
I would rather go to one of those bikini coffee shops, or a higher class version of a place like this. I'd never take my kids. I don't oogle women on the subway or anything gross, but a pretty young smile and a $4 beer would go a long way for me. When I was young and single, I went to my share of gentlemen's clubs around the country (and Montreal, where a girl with a C-section scar can still make good money) maybe you think it makes me a bad person, so be it, but if there was a place that was like this, but higher class and wasn't skeevy, I'd probably go.
Admiring the human form is a world of difference away from cheating or sexually harassing. You can say whatever you want, but no matter your gender or orientation, people on all sides enjoy this. I don't think it is fair to categorize these as PG rated sex workers, have you ever been to a bar with a female bartender who wears a tight shirt? A male bartender with a short sleeve shirt with muscled arms? Are they sex workers?
With the current rave of sexual harassment coming to light, people will decry taking any casual pleasure in the opposite sex as wrong, microaggession, etc - which is really too bad. Apparently I can't even give a seat on the train to a pretty girl anywhere because of third wave feminism.
Pretty girls don't need any
Pretty girls don't need any favors from you, you creepy old man.
Your whatabout exploitation argument around male beefcake
revues has some merit. The two cases -- Chippendale dancers and Hooters waitresses -- are similar: lower-rung workers laboring hard to earn a crust by displaying their bodies and feigning flirtatious interest in older, richer patrons that in real life they wouldn't give the time of day.
I also agree that similar, far-less-frequently-discussed exploitation occurs at many other restaurants and nightclubs here. One enormous difference there is how often female workers are pressured to wear short skirts and fishnets and heavy makeup, display cleavage, and silently endure unwanted sexual attention from male customers, or get fired -- and that's before we even begin to talk about what they often suffer from their male co-workers behind the scenes. That dynamic is not what drives the dudes behind the bar to show off their guns.
This ugly imbalance is hardly confined to the restaurant industry, but it strikes me as particularly egregious there. I've witnessed it first-hand in my own time as a dishwasher, busboy, server and bartender, and count many female industry pros among my acquaintances and friends.
The comparison further fails miserably once you consider the several millennia of men assaulting, harassing, exploiting, oppressing and objectifying women from a position of greater economic, social, political, workplace and physical power. Women exploiting men that way is a very new and relatively tiny phenomenon. The converse is as old as the hills, far more ubiquitous, and infinitely more pernicious.
But, you know: keep on gallantly giving up your seat on the train. I'm sure that makes up for a *lot*.
Have a watch of the Twin
Have a watch of the Bikinis episode of Undercover Boss, where one of the workers chose not to expose herself on national television, instead opting to wear a regular shirt, and had the audacity to confess to the owner that she did not view degrading herself as the final act of her career, instead wanting to use her to degree to get something more stable (and less soul-crushing). She was rewarded not with the opportunity to help the company in other ways, but by being humiliated in front of a national audience.
And this isn't just one owner: the CEO of Bikinis came from Hooters, where this mindset that these women are your property to make money off of is likely in its DNA. He can't be one bad apple, as he was on record saying he still got support from his former colleagues.
edit - Bikinis not Twin Peaks
Undercover Boss
The show looks terrible and that waitress is a freaking hero. I hope she sued him. A) It seems highly unethical to force her to wear a bikini on national television. B) There's no way she should be fired for telling her disguised boss that she's looking for a job that doesn't ask her to strip to her bathing suit for pay. I'm not a lawyer, but that feels like entrapment.
Yet I'm sure the tv show is just a tongue bath for the "boss" and presented him as the hero and wronged party, like every other part of our screwed up, Shirley Leung-like corporate worshiping media
It's been on for almost a decade
The boss isn't usually a villain, but the light really shines on the employees at the end.