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Pennsylvania man bangs a uey at Roxbury Crossing at rush hour, gets arrested for the high-powered, loaded gun in the car, police say
By adamg on Thu, 11/02/2023 - 9:44am
Seized gun with laser sight and bullets. Photo by BPD.
Boston Police report arresting a man from the Philadelphia suburb of Upper Darby on various gun charges after performing two illegal driving maneuvers where Tremont Street turns into Columbus Avenue around 4:45 p.m. on Wednesday.
Police say officers initially ordered Eric Jenkins, 23, out of his car when they learned his license was suspended, after pulling behind him and activating their blue lights and siren for making a U-turn and then parking at a bus stop.
But then, police say, officers found "a CaniK METEsft equipped with a laser sight and 17 rounds in the magazine" in the car.
Jenkins was charged with illegal possession of a firearm, illegal possession of ammunition, illegal possession of a large-capacity feeding device and unlicensed operation, police say.
Innocent, etc.
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I believe it’s spelled Yueh.
In the suk dialect.
So we should Thufir the children?
or iz it u-ey, u-ee, uyee, ..
or iz it u-ey, u-ee, uyee, ... ?
"High-powered"
It's a 9mm pistol, the most common pistol caliber on the market and its barrel length is 4.5" roughly the same as most 9mm pistols on the market. Is "high-powered" the new "assault-style" or something? A .22 pistol is capable of killing you, so it isn't like a "high-powered" pistol is a threat to your life when a "regular" pistol isn't. This pistol can go through a thin wall or two while a .22 probably wouldn't, but that is more a feature of the ammunition and not the pistol.
OK ...
I was thinking more of the laser sight and the 17 bullets.
Why feed it, Adam?
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Is it a laser sight?
Based on the photo, that looks like a Streamlight TLR-7, which is a flashlight, not a laser sight.
It just seems like an erroneous detail; I'm not letting that get in the way of seeing the story for what it is, but it still caught my eye.
As alleged, the guy shouldn't have been operating a motor vehicle, shouldn't have been in possession of that firearm, and even if he lawfully possessed the firearm, he still shouldn't have had a magazine with that capacity. I'm glad his driving behavior was poor enough that he gave this officer cause to detain him long enough to uncover these crimes. The flashlight isn't a crime.
I doubt it works either way
I doubt a guy that can't purchase a magazine worth of matching ammo laid out over $500 for a pistol and another $150 for a flashlight, the weapon is almost certainly stolen. It probably came with the gun and worked until the battery died and he left it on because it looked cool, no need to pay $3 every time he wanted to swap out the battery.
But, can't blame Adam for that, the original article made the mistake, though it does mean that he missed the dunk on the cops for not being able to tell the difference.
Laser
Given how many uninvolved individuals have been harmed by poorly aimed gunfire over the decades here , I've thought for years the then-mayor got the laser moral panic wrong. We should be bonus-punishing NOT having a laser sight. Likewise soft-nose anti-ricochet bullets should be mandatory not prohibited: if cops or crooks miss, don't hurt someone else, let it. FIRST wall stop it. (But yeah, armor piercing and wad cutter belong on bonus charges list.) Using "war crime under rules of war" as the measure for civil sanctions on ammo is just lazy thinking; the context is (usually) radically different.
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tekniklee: hī kappassittee; sins, ħə stok wuzzent moddiffied.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/10mm_pistol_(Fallout_4)
The power to take multiple lives...
In a moment or two qualifies the term" high powered" to me. How quickly a weapon can be fired and reloaded seems pertinent. I'm sure some gun nut... excuse me, "fire arms experts" would disagree, but I think we give 'em too much of an ear as it is.
Compared to what?
So, the gun is semiautomatic, that means it fires once each time you pull the trigger, same as pretty much every 9mm pistol in existence.
The reload rate of this firearm doesn't appear to be noteworthy, it features the same "push button to release magazine" that is present on the majority of 9mm pistols available today.
I don't claim to be a firearm expert, I was just surprised at the adjective of "high-powered" in a headline attributed to "police" when they said no such thing in the underlying article. I wasn't aware that injecting editorial comments into quotes was acceptable these days.
Apologies if I'm wrong
But, in the day and age of mass shootings, where the discussion is often met with folks who feel compelled to point out that "The A stands for Armalite, not assault" while the victims are being counted, I don't think technical details are always that important. No matter how it's parsed, a weapon that can wipe out a dozen people in short order is a lot of "power" to give an individual. Given the Browning post on this thread, it certainly seems as though my hunch (high power can mean just that the gun can hold more bullets,) is at least part of the equation - meaning that the capacity is taken into account, not merely the caliber.
Marketing techniques aren't reliable
The Browning Hi-Power is called the Hi-Power because it helped Browning move merchandise. It might have had more firepower, making it "Higher-powered" than its contemporaries, but that was a century ago.
It's the reasonable witness test. If you were to ask a "reasonable person" if getting shot with a "high-powered" handgun is more or less dangerous than a "regular" handgun, I would heavily wager that the preponderance of answers would say "more", which isn't accurate in this case.
The Browning Hi-Power (1935)
was named that because it came with a 13-round magazine, compared to its contemporaries, the M1911 (7 rounds) and the Luger (8 rounds).
The real news here …
Is that the police stopped someone for "making a U-turn and then parking at a bus stop."
This is why traffic
This is why traffic enforcement should be the BPDs primary focus. People who drive dangerously are the biggest threat to Bostonians. And people who recklessly break one law are more likely to break others too.
That loser who parked his pick up truck on the sidewalk? Probably has a warrant for unpaid child support. The driver who blew through a red light at 2AM? Probably drunk. Get these people off the streets before they kill someone.
The equity people will jump all over you
Because it is not equitable because the cops will just pull over non-white people.
Of course, there is a good way around this, which is to not speed, run red lights, and do other dumb driving stuff.
What?!?!
But muh Freedoms!!!
/s
It is a little troubling.
While I'm all for traffic enforcement, there's a pretty easy escalation from "I don't like that person's looks" to "oh look, they did something that was safe in practice but still broke a traffic law" to "we're going to search your person and car". Searching a car seems fine in cases of reckless or erratic driving, but not for like... an illegal right on red.
...I don't know how to fix that.
(In this case, while the traffic infraction was a possibly harmless U-turn, there was an intermediate step of driving with a suspended license. But it could just as well have been "in my opinion the driver was acting shifty".)
You should've quit while you were ahead
1. Every single driver breaks traffic laws. No, I don't mean blatantly disregarding them, but every single person who ever operates a motor vehicle does things like not signaling the correct number of feet before the intersection, blocking a side street when pulling up to a line of cars at a red light, not having their seven-year-old in a booster seat.
2. Enforcement of traffic laws is subjective. Cops also blatantly lie.
3. Enforcement of traffic laws, and all laws, has been demonstrated to be racially disproportionate. So has policing and the carceral system overall.
Well....
5 crisp new American dollars says he's not white.
...and your point is?
Does it really matter what race he is? What's your point?
I WAS GOING TO SAY!! HUGE IF
I WAS GOING TO SAY!! HUGE IF TRUE!!
Gun question
Can someone who knows more about guns than me explain why all the bullets have different shapes? Is that normal or does that mean he got the 17 bullets from 17 different places?
Probably the latter
I doubt this guy could walk into a legitimate gun shop and buy a box of ammo, even in Pennsylvania.
Same reason he's got 4 different tires on his car.
Too broke, disorganized, or indifferent to get himself a matching set so he just put whatever fit.
I noticed the same.
So often there's a mixed bag of ammo, makes me wonder if getting the gun is easier than getting a box of shells. Glad BPD shows photos of the whole rig.
Sure, have all the guns you want, just no ammo, you have to reload your own. (I know, I know...)
Guns vs. bullets
A popular slogan, if I remember it correctly, says that guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. I dispute this. As Laurie Anderson has wisely pointed out, it's not the bullet that kills you, it's the hole.
Not necessarily 17 different
Not necessarily 17 different places, but if you mean, did he get this ammunition other than by the straightforward method of going in a gun store and buying a box of ammunition, then probably. Most likely these are the first 17 rounds he was able to find, steal, or buy off of someone else.
To expand on that a little,
To expand on that a little, there are reasons to mix different types of ammunition, but when people do that you'd see a repeating pattern, such as alternating hollowpoint and "hardball" (i.e. regular) ammunition. Not a random handful like this.
Different
because of different manufacturers, different bullet grains and whoever has them at a reasonable price on any particular day. Ammunition is like commodities, the price fluctuates with what’s going on around the world.
Thank you
Thank you for the informed answers!
Junk drawer
Probably came from the kitchen junk drawer full of varied ammunition, nuts, bolts, screws, rubber bands, twist ties, paper clips, push pins, etc.
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Hang or Bang
I need a clarification poll here.
I'm a lifelong Bostonian and have always said "Bang a Uey"
Am I alone in this?
Is is Hang or Bang a Uey?
You're right
I will hang my head in shame (but I've fixed the headline).
Heard both versions
To Adam,
I wasn't implying that you're wrong. I've heard both and am wondering what the consensus says.
I like "Bang" more but have heard both.
It is bang. You bang a uey.
It is bang. You bang a uey.
I've heard "hang a left" or
I've heard "hang a left" or "hang a right" many times, so I guess you could "hang a u-ee" by that logic, but I've definitely heard "bang a uey" a lot more. Probably a natural linguistic development that takes into account the possible outcomes if you fail to hang a you-ee correctly.
But can we talk about the spelling of "you-ee"?
wictionary:
sez bang a u-ie:
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_Boston_slang
Opportunity beckons
At Washington and Williams, where English High is located, drivers regularly rush through red lights. I always think that this is a great opportunity for police to pull over drivers for what could be called public safety inspections.
This is what led to a crystal meth bust in Dorchester several years. There was a house in Savin Hill (cue "House of the Rising Sun") where the sun did rise upon it. The resident regularly received deliveries of ingredients needed for manufacturing meth. It was an open secret. The house faced both Savin Hill Road and Grampian Way. The neighborhood association was able to persuade the resident to tell his short term visitors to limit their visits to only one side.
DEA and state police were watching the house.
If all this sounds ludicrous it's only shows reality is worse than fantasy.
But what led to the raid and the mess that followed? One night a customer left the house. One of the customer's tail lights was out. A local PD pulled the person over due to the broken tail light. The local PD was not aware that this was a meth house. But that was the domino which falling led to the raid and arrest as well as forcing neighbors to relocate while the house was cleaned of the meth chemicals.
All because of a broken tail light.
Police have quotas to fill. The city always needs more money. Stationing officers at intersections where drivers act as though there are not red lights (especially where there are lots of pedestrian traffic from schools) is an opportunity to satisfy the quotas, add some money to city coffers and do a cursory and legal look inside to see if the driver is packing.
Traffic stops pay big dividends
I recall back in the good old days (say 2002) when we had an officer in the neighborhood who basically only did traffic enforcement. He'd set up his motorcycle around a bend and pull over anyone who was speeding or had some other issue. He did very little waiting and lots of ticket writing. My wife and her sisters got pulled over several times, to the point where he knew them all by name. The best part was reading, in the now defunct local paper, about all the people with outstanding warrants and unlicensed drivers that he snared along the way.
The downside
So-called "broken taillight policing" is often a pretext for profiling, racial and otherwise. And for all the "look at all the drug dealers we took off the streets!" stories, there are other stories that the cops would prefer you didn't know about.
Depends. Running a red light is dangerous. That is not a pretext
Assuming that a person is more likely to be suspect in a crime simply because the person fits the height, skin color, etc. is wrong. When that happens it is our responsibility to basically be such pains in the bum that police do not do that.
But running red lights and endangering pedestrians is dangerous. There is not profiling in that situation. That is a moment of putting financial burden on a person who has no regard for the safety of others.
If when pulled over a cop sees in plain view guns then that is cause to investigate further. It is solid case law that anything which is in plain view which gives cause for further investigation is okay.
So yes I agree that using a pretext is wrong. But running red lights is not a matter of pretext. It is dangerous.
Guns are everywhere nowadays sadly
A Florida roofing company is advertising a free turkey and AR-15 if you hire them to replace your roof. SCARY
https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-roof-ar15/45710942
One might argue ...
That's a good reason to live in a state like Massachusetts.
Agree
Massachusetts was home to the famed Minuteman, prepared to enter battle on a minute's notice.
Well tell you what, the
Well tell you what, the minute it looks like King Charles is thinking of making his move, we arm everyone. Until then, status quo.
"the AR-15 will protect your family,"
Basic gun safety includes a few precautions:
1. Store the firearm in a way that kids can not easily reach it. A locked cabinet for instance.
2. Do not store the firearm with ammunition.
3. Store the ammunition in a location which adds a step to getting the bullets.
If someone invades a home and the homeowner is not equipped with a stasis field generator then how will the homeowner have the time to find the key, reach the cabinet, acquire the bullets, load the firearm and then finally shoot?
Since stasis field generators do not exist it is impossible for the homeowner to have the time to actually protect the home and family.
Ah, but what if there are hordes of invaders roaming the streets looking for houses to invade? When the rapture so worshipped by conservative Evangelicals finally happens (why else support Israel's existence?) how do we know that the resurrection of the billions of people who have died over the eons will not return feeling pretty darned annoyed with eons in cold tombs and decide they want to live in the nice Floridian houses that have brand new roofs?
In that case a homeowner most likely will have the time to suit up with their AR-15 and go after all those Raptured resurrected. Most of whom probably are not even Evangelicals and so definitely don't deserve a new life.
Well...
If that happens you can just have the circus ponies trample them to death.
Or thirty to fifty feral hogs
Or thirty to fifty feral hogs.
Jim Jefferies has this covered
"Is that why they're called assault rifles? I've never heard of these protection rifles you speak of."
Thanks, Jim Jefferies.
Part 2
I want to know the real
I want to know the real reason why he was here from Pennsylvania with a loaded gun.