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ahhhhh, Copley
The first station where all the green line branches come together, yet you can't actually cross from inbound to outbound without going above ground, crossing
63 lanes of traffic, and back in again (and clocking in on your T pass again...possibly incurring a "pass already used" error. Awesome.)So what's so funny about the entrance being closed, aside from the fact that they just opened the other side a few days ago?
Thats why....
They've had signs for years telling you to go to arlington and change.
I've never seen a sign that
I've never seen a sign that said you can't transfer at Copley. Where are they?
way to miss the point
Arlington is a good 5 minutes out of the way...
The irony is that the stairs
The irony is that the stairs just opened.
I wish they'd open the berkeley entrance to arlington again, who cares that it isn't renovated.
me too
Yeah, I'm hoping it's in the works to reopen the Berkeley entrance. It seems like a waste to spend all the money to install the fare gates just to let them sit for the rest of eternity.
Likewise, several weeks ago, I noticed they had the Boylston St. entrance to Hynes Station open with a truck parked on the street selling tickets (I assumed because they don't have vending machines inside yet). A week or two later, it was all gated back up again.
There are fare gates there
The T spent something like $250,000 to install fare gates on the Boylston St. entrance to Hynes just so it could be open on Marathon Monday and closed the rest of the year.
It is also occasionally
It is also occasionally opened up if there is a large event going on at the Hynes, especially if the event orders and hands out MBTA passes for attendees.
There ae no vending machines at the Hynes entrance, just gates. They park the mobile Charlie Card truck there to sell tickets.
weird, it definitely wasn't
weird, it definitely wasn't open last marathon monday when I tried to use it... there were police officers there hired just to tell people that entrance wasn't open.
not really
That side opened up months ago. I'm hoping they closed that side to repair a lot of the old tiles that weren't replaced in the rehab....
Copley opened in 1914 when
Copley opened in 1914 when the subway was extended from Boylston station to Kenmore Sq. The tunnel under Huntington Av. used by the E Line today was not built until 1941. When Copley was built there wasn't much reason to build a passageway between the off-set inbound and outbound stations because there would not be people transferring between directions between different lines. The E Line was still up stairs on the surface. Adding in a new passageway under the tracks post-1941 would be very complicated, given that it is all filled in land with high water tables. It would be even more complicated today, as ADA would require elevators at each end of a new connecting passageway. Look how complicated and long it took just add elevators going from the street to the platform level, imagine the cost/time to build a shaft going below the platform level on each side, connecting to a new passageway under the tracks, which would all have to be built while still keeping the tracks open for service. Not going to happen.
If Boylston have have a
If Boylston have have a (closed) tunnel linking both sides, I dont see why Copley can't also have a (closed) one.
When Boylston opened in 1897,
When Boylston opened in 1897, passengers coming from the (now abandoned) lines coming in from Tremont St. would have had a reason to cross over to the other side to transfer to the lines heading toward the west That reason to transfer across the tracks went away in 1962 when the last streetcar line to use the now abandoned outer tracks at Boylston was discontinued (although the under-track passageway did stay open for about 6 more years).
Such a transfer was not a need in 1914 at Copley.
The Zen of the MBTA
You can't change trains at Copley because first the trains really have to want to change themselves.
lol
lol
This brings up another point.
This brings up another point. When I moved to Boston in August 2007 they were working on Arlington Station. How does that work take 3.5+ years? It only took 6 years to build the Burj Khalifa, the tallest building in the world.
...and it only took 13 months
...and it only took 13 months to build the Empire State Building.
I saw this yesterday and
I saw this yesterday and agree that it's ridiculous.
When Boylston and Huntington still had trolleys
A 1903 film by Edison's company, also shows the trolley navigating Washington Street (look for Jordan Marsh on the right):