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NStar wants to raise your electric rates 29%

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Don't worry our steadfast AG and her successor would never approve this rate hike would they?

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What experiences have you kind folks had with competitive power suppliers?... their call centers' staffs fail to make available reliably the kind of information needed to compare rates other than at
http://www.mass.gov/eea/energy-utilities-clean-tech/electric-power/elect...
http://www.nstar.com/residential/competitive_supply/

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That was your republican party. The same people that re-wrote bankruptcy laws allowing corporations to wipe out any and all debt while sticking personal bankruptcy on one's back forever to include life long student debt. The AG is a pass through for this statute. Blame the true cause. Yourself.

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Cape Wind wasn't going to pay for itself.

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This would make them pay for themselves even faster. If you own a building and have a clear southern exposure, it makes a lot of sense.

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It's a little more complicated than that. Your solar panels are mostly paid by the rest of us thru creative public financing (tax rebates, and other public incentives of all kinds) and the fact that you are getting your free battery (the electrical grid) at other consumer's expenses . Even with all that, I doubt that your December thru February electrical bills are going to be so much lower than the rest of us, given that the sun is shinning less than 5 hours a day during that period.

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My winter bills are typically for $0, unless there's a lot of snow that sticks to the roof. Today, I generated 21 kWh, which is more than I will use. Over the last three years, I've paid about $90. Total. Your mileage might vary, depending on how much power you can fit on your roof, and whether you can clear off the snow (I can't).

It seems to bother you that I took advantage of the incentives that the state and federal governments were offering. I could have kept on paying the electric company. Would that actually make you feel better? I suggest that instead of worrying about what I have that you don't, you look into whether you can have it, too.

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Does it have to be on a private home or can we wire up the public lights in our condo to go solar? Probably can't generate enough for all the units - but I'd love to cut down on our public utility bill.

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The board of directors of the condo association would be the ones to initiate such a project. The governing documents for the association can be a problem. There's a discussion here.

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Ever been to Germany? There are places in Germany that are far enough north to only get 5 hours of sunlight (like, at least 10 degrees latitude NORTH of Boston).

They still use solar! Denmark, Sweden, Norway, too!

Please buy a globe and try again. Boston is as far south as parts of California!

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How do you determine the least expensive competitive power supplier?... other than the difficult to navigate information at
http://www.mass.gov/eea/energy-utilities-clean-tech/electric-power/elect...
http://www.nstar.com/residential/competitive_supply/

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...you could dumb it down a bit?

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Here's your friggin science:

OK, my take...the country is awash (in liquified form) in natural gas. New England isn't. Other governors in NE are bottlenecked, too. So, what's going on? Where's the gas to replace the shut down coal and nuke plants?
Faggetaboutit. Let's rely on windmills and bullshit.

http://www.necn.com/news/business/Massachusetts-Electric-Rates-Soar-2770...

"Kinder Morgan is facing intense local and environmentalist opposition to its plan for a new 177-mile pipeline across the northern side of Massachusetts, costing about $3 billion, connecting to existing pipeline networks in Dracut. Northeast Utilities and Sempra Energy have proposed an alternative $3 billion plan to upgrade the capacity of existing pipelines that come through Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts and serve dozens of gas-fired electric generators. But it could be several winters before either plan clears federal approvals and gets built and put into operation."

http://www.masslive.com/business-news/index.ssf/2014/03/iso_new_england_...

"Rising natural gas prices pushed wholesale electricity prices across the region up 55 percent in 2013, according to preliminary figures released this week by ISO New England."

For the NPR types here, news you can use:

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/05/361420484/new-england-electricity-prices-s...

"Between the years of 2000 and 2013, New England went from getting 15 percent of its energy from natural gas to 46 percent. That's dozens of power plants getting built.
But the pipelines to supply those power plants? Not so much.

"Distrigas, New England's only liquefied natural gas import terminal, is just north of Boston. Tony Scaraggi, the company's vice president of operations, says even with last year's frigid winter, New England only hit its maximum pipeline capacity for 40 days. "That's equivalent to like, two and a half to three LNG tankers coming in. So you gotta compare that to the cost of a $2 to $3 billion pipeline," Scaraggi says."

They love the nice expensive shipped gas.

""In New England, this winter, based on what's been recently trading, is likely to have the highest natural gas prices on planet Earth," says Taff Tschamler, chief operating officer of energy supplier North American Power."

"A plan from the six New England governors to subsidize bigger pipes was tabled recently when Massachusetts announced it wanted to study the question further before committing. Ultimately, whether electricity prices continue to rise in New England next winter and the winter after that will come down to weather. "At any rate, what I think we're hoping for is that the good Lord who protects drunks and the United States will also protect New England," says Peter Brown, an energy attorney with the law firm Preti Flaherty.
In other words, pray for a warm winter."

And lots of nice, expensive wind.

This state isn't only hanging ourselves, we're forcing the rest of New England to go along with us.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/09/29/electric-rates-soar-in-st...

"Heat suppliers – as well as factories and other industrial companies – get their gas under long-term contracts, locking in low rates for years at a time, experts say. They also buy plenty of it: Come winter, much of the gas that flows through the region’s two pipelines is used for heating. The scant amount that's left over goes to the electric generating companies, which bid against one another for the fuel."

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It's a shame they're closing down the nuclear power plants too, just when we could use all that capacity.

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How about upgrades to facilities that were underdesigned to start with and are now 40-50 years old?

Gee, lets go get a car out of a junk yard - those 1940s cars were wonderful! They ran so well - and won't need a thing!

They get great mileage, too. Too bad we don't have their capacity.

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Sounds like I should be happy that my rates are locked in for another two years.

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n/t

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since my natural gas cost in the winter is ten times what my electrical cost is I'd much rather have the electrical go up and keep natural gas low :) Even in the summer my electrical cost is less than twice the gas cost due to window AC units!

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