but also when immigrants come here the city should require them to learn the language...English. would make them employable if adults and help their kids do better in school!
But in Chelsealand, the kids speak better English than the adults!
I can't tell you how many times I have to grab a kid to speak to the parents who own the building to talk to them about abutment issues (we share a common area). The parents marginally understand, but the kids help a lot with the translation.
hey, I try my Spanish out on them, but I'm not far enough along in Rosetta Stone to form sentences that are meaningful. So we all just have a good laugh when I try my Spanish!
(amazingly enough the teenager nextdoor is going to help me with my spanish this spring.. he wants too, he's tired of me talking 'bad spanish with a boston accent")
Even if it were somehow required, the number of available spots in adult ESOL classes is around 3,000 in the city. The waiting list is over 4,000. People are trying, there is just not enough support.
In neighborhoods with high numbers of English as a second language residents there should be drop in centers that help parents learn English (great opportunity for a new business). and it should be a requirement to get a Visa / Green Card, housing assistant, food stamps, etc.....stop letting people live here that won't learn the language!
At some point, things seem to be out of whack. Just how many bi-lingual teachers, in how many languages, is anyone we supposed to be able to find?
I understand that immigrants are a great driver of our economy and admire kids who are learning English as well as regular school subjects. But I still feel a bit frustrated with requirements to have a gazillion translators everywhere.
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs …” -- Sen. Ted Kennedy on his Immigration "Reform" Act of 1965
Kennedy's 1965 immigration act (before I was born, dude--what effects are you actually claiming it had?) opened up more opportunities for Asians and Middle Easterners, not the guys outside Home Depot who seem to give you such a cramp. Compare and contrast.
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So obviously one of the main reasons BPS is failing
but also when immigrants come here the city should require them to learn the language...English. would make them employable if adults and help their kids do better in school!
They should also make ALL
They should also make ALL students learn proper grammar and punctuation.
How's that now?
The city has no authority to "require" anything of immigrants.
But the Feds can
And should add basic English to the Citizenship Exam.
except...
The vast majority of those who are naturalized take their exams in English anyway. There are very few exceptions.
http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization/e...
Also, English isn't our official language. So, there's always that.
Damn right, we speak American
Damn right, we speak American in these parts!
I dunno about BPS
But in Chelsealand, the kids speak better English than the adults!
I can't tell you how many times I have to grab a kid to speak to the parents who own the building to talk to them about abutment issues (we share a common area). The parents marginally understand, but the kids help a lot with the translation.
hey, I try my Spanish out on them, but I'm not far enough along in Rosetta Stone to form sentences that are meaningful. So we all just have a good laugh when I try my Spanish!
(amazingly enough the teenager nextdoor is going to help me with my spanish this spring.. he wants too, he's tired of me talking 'bad spanish with a boston accent")
Not possible
Even if it were somehow required, the number of available spots in adult ESOL classes is around 3,000 in the city. The waiting list is over 4,000. People are trying, there is just not enough support.
BPS should not be taking this on by themselves
In neighborhoods with high numbers of English as a second language residents there should be drop in centers that help parents learn English (great opportunity for a new business). and it should be a requirement to get a Visa / Green Card, housing assistant, food stamps, etc.....stop letting people live here that won't learn the language!
School staff. And taxpayers
At some point, things seem to be out of whack. Just how many bi-lingual teachers, in how many languages, is anyone we supposed to be able to find?
I understand that immigrants are a great driver of our economy and admire kids who are learning English as well as regular school subjects. But I still feel a bit frustrated with requirements to have a gazillion translators everywhere.
Zero bilingual teachers
Bilingual education is illegal in Massachusetts since 2002. English Immersion only. Your frustration should be relieved by that, no?
How apporopriate on the day they dedicate the Ted Kennedy Pub
Yeah, right.
How about Reagan?
Quite a massive amnesty there. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
Kennedy's 1965 immigration act (before I was born, dude--what effects are you actually claiming it had?) opened up more opportunities for Asians and Middle Easterners, not the guys outside Home Depot who seem to give you such a cramp. Compare and contrast.
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The difference is that Reagan lied about what he was doing. That makes it okay. We can believe the lie and forget the reality.
awwwww
Someone's still pretty upset about his "ethnic mix" being disturbed, isn't he?
It's been 50 years. Get over it.