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The City that Always Sleeps: After fending off a 24-hour health club, Allston group worries about a Taco Bell open until 3:30 a.m. on weekends

The Boston Licensing Board could decide tomorrow whether to let a proposed liquor-serving Taco Bell Cantina not just serve drinks until 2 a.m. but then stay open another 60 to 90 minutes in the old Great Scott spaces at Harvard and Commonwealth avenues - unless the company agrees to seek a deferral to meet with the Allston Civic Association, whose president called service and hours like that a potential menace to the neighborhood that an understaffed police district might be unable to contain.

In practical terms, the board might not actually have any liquor licenses to dole out, thanks to a long penurious state legislature that limits how many liquor licenses Boston can dole out, so it might be a moot point, at least in terms of alcohol sales, so the not-your-fathers Taco Bell might have to open early next year just serving food.

At a hearing today, Taco Bell Cantina attorney Tom Miller described something more upscale than you're used to: A 34-seat "fast casual" restaurant featuring art by local artists - in homage to Great Scott, he said - and serving food that is "something a little more healthy and customizable" than the "pizza, donuts and burgers" that is all that now passes as food in the Harvard Avenue area late at night. Why, the place would even have vegetarian options, he said. Also, if the board does have a license to grant: Liquor.

Anthony D'Isidoro, president of the Allston Civic Association, however, asked the board to defer any action until after Miller and his client can meet with the group and have a frank and open discussion about the idea of 3/3:30 a.m. closings at a place that might be able to serve liquor until 2 a.m.

D'Isidoro noted the group successfully got Planet Fitness to scale back its proposed 24-hour operations at a nearby location "big time."

D'Isidoro said he is not opposed to the idea of a Taco Bell offering booze until 2 a.m., especially not in a spot where Great Scott used to do the same. The problem, he said, is the transition from alcohol to just food at 2 a.m. - the latest state law allows liquor sales. Now, you've potentially got all these people, who may have been drinking for hours, and who may not want to give that up in a restaurant that remains open for another hour or 90 minutes.

"It will simply add to the burden of enforcement to Boston Police," he said, adding District D-14 in Brighton is already short staffed.

Miller, however, said Taco Bell Cantina has considerable experience and systems in place to ensure drinking is cut off by 2 a.m., or earlier, if that's what the board decides.

"People are not coming here to hang out," he said, adding, if anything, an early-into-the-morning Taco Bell would prove a boon to public safety, because people would "come and grab a bite to eat in a more sedate way" than just everybody pouring out of local bars and into Ubers all at once he said.

Miller said he would confer with his client to see if they'd be amenable to meeting with the association before the board holds a vote.

Although Taco Bell Cantina hopes to open the new location in early 2024, Miller added that the franchisee does not want to start any renovation work until after it has at least a food-serving license in hand.

If the board does not have a liquor license to award the restaurant, the franchisee could wait and try again or go on the open market to buy one - at prices that now approach $500,000.

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Cantina.. they might have a point but

D'Isidoro noted the group successfully got Planet Fitness to scale back its proposed 24-hour operations at a nearby location "big time."

But a Gym? really?!? Come on.. this is PURE NIMBY. Gosh for bid people who don't work normal schedules have access to a gym after 9pm.

We really just want to head straight to the top of "World's Boringest City".. bumping out Oslo and Ottowa from the top.

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Sometimes it really shows that this place was founded by Puritans.

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It's the Uber Eats drivers who block up the roadway. This place should have a bunch of spots reserved for Uber Eats drivers and there should be no problems there. Hell, there are 4 other ones within 1-2 miles anyway. So it wont be as crowded as it might be if it were the only one.

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that seems like an easy case for Boston's traffic enforcement to actually enforce traffic laws, such that it's understood that blocking the roadway is both discouraged and very expensive.

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Politicians have told the police to stand down for economic systems like this…bad look for guys with guns enforcing the law….

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I get that you feel that you have to spend your time on here lying on behalf of all police officers, but come on, at least try to keep it in the realm of possibility, instead of pretending there was actually a time where BPD ever gave a shit about actually enforcing traffic laws.

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numbers will show they still do.

In all honesty though, people like you will call for enforcement, and when the cop gives the driver a ticket, you complaint that the driver is being harassed for just doing his job and the cops should get something better to do. Your 2nd personality usually wins (hence no enforcement and why most people don't complain about it).

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because personally, I've been in multiple scenarios where I've pointed out to cops that someone's breaking traffic laws (in one case, because they did so by hitting me with their car) and in every single case, they've told me to fuck off, in so many words. And all of this was long before 2023 or any kind of anti-police protest (unless BPD is annoyed about Rodney King, which to be fair, wouldn't surprise me).

So, yeah, as they say across the pond -- pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

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The licensing board has required restaurants that will be allowing third-party pickups to submit plans for where they will park and not jam up the street.

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This location has both the carriage lane angle parking and the 66 bus stop that won't be serving any buses at 2am to use for late-night delivery vehicles.

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...who gets delivery from Taco Bell.

O tempora, o mores.

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A pox on the building and all businesses in that space.
May the Curse of Great Scott forever doom your fortunes!!

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Boasting about convincing a potential 24-hour gym to close at 9pm? That's a big accomplishment for the Allston "Civic" Association?

Nuts. This group seems to exist exclusively to say "no" to anyone who asks. I'm sure it feels like political power to them. Do they have rules that forbid any of the local college students from joining? It may be time for a takeover.

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On the one hand, yes to a new food spot and bar and whatever else the Allston Community Association is against, because they're a bunch of idiot NIMBYS (judging on this and the last post and every other time they speak up against a good change)

On the other hand, are they really going to give a free license to a friggin' Taco bell so they can open in the old Great Scott location? (not even a combination Pizza Hut/Taco Bell). Surely there's some more worthy small businesses to give one of these platinum licenses to, instead of justifying the landlord jacking up rents and kicking out a much hallowed venue?

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I have a TON of friends who have a cult-like following for Taco Bell, so I could see it being very popular.

Yeah they are a chain.. but it is a well loved chain. If this was McD (and I love McD), I'd be with you.

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I'm saying the city could do better with its meager number of licenses than hand one out to a chain, even a popular chain. Make them buy one on the open market like all the Seaport monstrosities.

While we're at it, the city should seize the club via eminent domain and reopen it as Greater Scott. Oh AND the city should just arbitrarily increase the number of licenses and ignore the moronic restrictions coming from Beacon Hill. I mean what is a nightlife CZAR for, amirite?!

One can dream.

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I remember going before ACA back in 2002, for a school permit. The whole experience was....an education.

1. I learned you need a connected lawyer who does the talking - if you try to straightforwardly explain your plan, you'll undoubtedly step on 7 minefields you didn't know existed.
2. There's a magical number to propose for parking, X. You have to be willing to settle for 1.2X once the guys say it's not enough. X can't be too low up front, though, or that triggers defenses. Game theory.
3. It was 8 guys in folding chairs. For them it was a social gathering that happened to double as a political event. Quite different from, say, a school board meeting.
4. Lawyer: if they say "no" you're dead. Menino will stop things right there.

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as replacing a long closed venue in a space that has been empty since the first year of the pandemic.

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what could be better than a generation of young 'street' artists in bed with a large corporation and entirely without the perspicacity of collective memory to challenge said corporation?

Im mean really, NOTHING could be better than that...bwaahahahhahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Please continue to mow down amazon rainforest trees to grow beef for Taco Bell! let the artists represent that!

oh a hot day in hell is coming at this rate

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Go Terriers!

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Not just NIMBYs being NIMBYs, but Boomer NIMBYs. Look up the president. Think about the faction age group that would enjoy being able to enjoy food at 3 AM or do a workout after 9PM. Even skipping over transient college students, there's the much more longer-term 20 and 30-somethings young professionals. But guess the age group that is deciding all policy of the businesses.

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