Fields Corner Papa John's approved with salad
The Boston Licensing Board today approved a proposed Papa John's at 1501 Dorchester Ave. in Fields Corner after the franchisee agreed to add salads, and possibly other healthy offerings to its menu - and to require all delivery drivers to make pickups through a rear door rather than clogging up the already crowded street out front.
All three board members said they were sympathetic to the issue of a small neighborhood being overwhelmed by junk food, but agreed opposition at a hearing yesterday was really more focused on opposition to yet another pizza place in the neighborhood - opposition that included the owner of a pizza place across the street - and "competition" is not an issue the board can legally consider in opposing a proposed food-serving license.
"I'm open to the argument that a small little neighborhood could be overwhelmed with bad food options," board member Liam Curran said. "For me, Papa John's I would say is an unhealthy food option." Curran said he didn't buy franchisee Joe Johnson's contention that Papa John's was somehow healthier because its pizzas, like pizzas everywhere else, are baked, not fried. Curran said Papa John's does sell fried stuff, "it's just fried somewhere else and they reheat them."
"At least some options on the menu allow it to not be as deleterious as some other fast food places," board member Keeana Saxon said, referencing her vote a couple years ago against a proposed Burger King on the Hyde Park/Mattapan line. But, she continued, "most of the opposition" was not about unhealthy food, but competition with nearby pizza places. "I was a little bit annoyed by it," she said.
In a city increasingly overwhelmed by delivery people on scooters, board members said they were particularly appreciative of Johnson's plan - submitted after a contentious hearing yesterday - to limit pickups to a rear door.
The board made the rear pickups a requirement on its license, which means that if police find food deliverers cramming out front, they can issue citations, which would require hearings before the board and possible sanctions.
Board members compared their impending vote in favor of the Papa John's to their vote a few years ago to doom a proposed Popeyes in Codman Square - which residents and community groups opposed as a purveyor of high-fat food and which never filed a plan on how it would deal with traffic.
Curran said there was "a very clear groundswell" against Popeyes based strictly on its menu, not the issue of it competing against nearby restaurants.
Board Chairwoman Kathleen Joyce, who noted the board wasn't even required to hold a hearing on Joe and Ralonda Johnson's application - because they are moving into the location of a previous restaurants - but did so because of the opposition to the proposal.
She said she objected to the way the Johnsons and their attorney, Dennis Quilty kept raising issues related to the business dealings of opponent and Antonio's Hi-Fi owner Brian Chavez - who previously operated a burger place at the proposed Papa John's location; in fact, she called it "out of line." But she said that on the merits of the application itself, she had to side with the Johnsons - in response to neighborhood concerns, they agreed to roll back the proposed closing time to midnight most nights and 1 a.m. on weekends and to restrict where delivery food can be picked up and add salads.
"I wasn't able to find it was not in the public good," she said.
Watch Wednesday's hearing:
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Remember
Remember when McDonald's came out with a salad cup or whatever and it had more calories in it than most of the other “non healthy” options.
Faulty Logic
Their logic as to why this isn't the same as Popeyes in Codman is absurd. It's the same situation, and I hope there is a lawsuit in the works.
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How many ways is this wrong
It's not the licensing board's job to ensure people have access to 'healthy' fast food. If anything, pick on the landlords for asking so much rent that only fast food chains can afford to move in.
Never mind also picking on restaurant N+1. Why is the new business "one too many"? Why not let the market decide?
If the kind of businesses an area can get aren't what the residents want, then complain to the planning department.
Planning Department and ISD
Actually, they did, and both said there was no reason to block the Papa John's because it would be moving into a storefront that had previously been a fast-food place.
You don't win friends with
You don't win friends with salad!
Bad politics, bad pizza: Papa John's.
In my eyes, that brand is forever tainted.
A shame for the existing
A shame for the existing local businesses offering salad that the city forced a new competitor to serve it. Terrible precedent for the Licensing Board to now start writing menus.
Licensing Board didn't force salad down anybody's throat
At Wednesday's hearing, the board expressed concern about parking/congestion issues related to third-party delivery - and asked the franchisees to supply a written plan to deal with that (as the board has been doing for more than a year now with all restaurants that offer takeout). The board did not ask for a salad plan. Unlike the third-party delivery plan, which the board did incorporate in the place's license, the board did not make leafy greens a condition of operation, even if, yes, members disputed the franchisees' assertion that Papa John's default offerings are somehow healthy.
The real shame
Is that a liquor license isn't going in there.
The place used to be the Emerald Isle bar.
Could make a good live music venue or disco.
You had a chance to make that happen
Write a business plan and get to it.
it's gonna be so funny
when this place closes in less than a year because Papa John's is terrible pizza and they already crashed out of a spot right down the street 10 years ago